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Old 18th Jan 2007, 16:08   #1 (permalink)
 
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BBC License Fee Increases Below Inflation. Big Deal.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/entertainment/6274061.stm

Still a scandalous theivery of innocent peoples money!

Scrap the whole lumbering mess and sell of the air time to someone who can give us some half decent programmes for no cost!
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Old 18th Jan 2007, 16:16   #2 (permalink)
 
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What makes it annoying is people around the world can listen to the Beeb radio and 'listen again' for nowt and we have to fork out....ok so thats only a fraction of where the money goes but still....
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Old 18th Jan 2007, 16:47   #3 (permalink)
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No doubt it will help fund several more series of : "Strictly Come flog a tired old format to death and offer some equally tired has beens a few more quid which we have ripped of the tax payer under the promise of actually producing decent programmed like we used to, but, as we now prefer to concentrate on dross, we really couldn't give a toss at times about serious programmes anymore. " .

Until proven otherwise of course!.
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Old 18th Jan 2007, 18:14   #4 (permalink)
 
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There is very little if anything to distinguish the BBC's output from the rest of the dross,cut them loose, let them sink or swim in the real world,as someone has already stated, why should we pay to keep people in other countries informed,and if their news output to those places is as biased as their news service here, poorly informed.
The BBC is about twenty years past its sell by date any rise is to much.
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Old 18th Jan 2007, 19:15   #5 (permalink)
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The Blair Broadcasting Corporation. And my money is helping to pay for it!

It's the airwaves version of the Guardian Newspaper, full of huggies, lovies
and lefties.

Once the greatest, most objective and respected broadcasting authority
in the world. Now full of politically correct, issue driven rubbish whose
only brief is to be 'inclusive'.

Just listen to the World Service. From the announcers to the programme
content, there is nothing to tell you are are listening to Britain.

So sad, so pathetic.
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Old 18th Jan 2007, 20:01   #6 (permalink)

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Still a scandalous theivery of innocent peoples money!
Don't see where you get that from. Paying it is entirely voluntary - if you don't want to pay, then don't pay. I don't.
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Old 18th Jan 2007, 21:11   #7 (permalink)
 
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Don't know whether your response Ms(Mr, Miss, Madam???) Wombat should be taken literally or tongue-in-cheek.

If literally, then you don't watch TV (at home anyway) if so, good for you - you are pure, live long and prosper, Grasshopper.

If tongue-in-cheek, then you do watch TV in the UK but don't pay the tax - even gooder IMHO for you. The active rejection of State bullshit speaks far louder than the the whiney arse don't-like-but-pay-anyway attitude.

In case non-UKer's are confused, the BBC licence fee is effectively a tax on owning a television - it doesn't matter if you tune to any BBC tv broadcast or not. If you own a tv then the point is you have the capability - hence the state levies as much flesh as they can get away with.

..and for what exactly? Oh wait, don't tell me, I know it... err....ok, I don't know it exactly, but it's something really good and unique.
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Old 18th Jan 2007, 21:23   #8 (permalink)

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If literally, then you don't watch TV
Correct. It's all crap, I have better things to do with my life than watch it, so I don't pay for it.
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Old 18th Jan 2007, 21:30   #9 (permalink)
 
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...and another thing.

UK inflation is at a 10-year high of 3%, and, State News Agency gets to tax 3% more on top of the tax they already charge, and the State News Agency headlines the event as 'Below Inflation'...

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Old 18th Jan 2007, 21:32   #10 (permalink)
 
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I have better things to do with my life than watch it
...like be here.
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Old 18th Jan 2007, 21:59   #11 (permalink)
 
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I'm still surprised by the way in which the BBC can report on itself and manage to be quite balanced about it. I doubt shITV could manage the same. If someone pays the license fee already, is an extra £5 a year really going to bother them? It doesn't bother me - i'll pay it just for the few decent programs left (Planet Earth, Ray Mears, various comedies (that's actual comedy - i don't mean your 'My Family' or whatever) and the pleasure of watching a film without advert breaks).
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Old 18th Jan 2007, 22:42   #12 (permalink)
 
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The only thing that I watch on the Beeb, is the Local News [a tad better than ITV]. As for "Quality" , we had 80% repeats over Chrimbo, and about 70% throughout the year. Bin the Licence Fee, and go "Commercial", they'd last 6 months..or am I being optomistic?
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Old 18th Jan 2007, 22:48   #13 (permalink)
 
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BBC4 int bad but not worth 150 quid a year,the only news based prog I still watch is Newsnight,don't watch question time since they took that down market,anybody wanna bet they will have that Jade Goody person on next week.
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Old 18th Jan 2007, 22:50   #14 (permalink)
 
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I thought the license fee was to fund Jonathan Ross.
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Old 19th Jan 2007, 08:51   #15 (permalink)
 
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the BBC licence fee is effectively a tax on owning a television
Which is abvout as unfair and illogical as road tax (unrelated to road useage), Council tax (unrelated to use of services) and a zillion other unfair, thieving, excuse-for-grabbing cash-from-the-innocent taxes.

I suppose someone has to pay for Public sector pensions, early retirements, MP wagwes and pension and all the other hangers-on.
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Old 19th Jan 2007, 09:25   #16 (permalink)
 
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The BBC went to hell when they became obsessed as with viewing figures as the commercial channels,beats me why, not as if they have to attract advertisers,although one notes the BBC have taken to placing what amounts to a irritating commercial break between progs as well.
Often wondered how viewing figures are calculated,Sky news just came out with figures about how many more were watching that shite Big Bruver because of the latest media created storm in a tea cup,how the hell do they know how many are watching any specific prog? and just how accurate they are.
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Old 19th Jan 2007, 11:49   #17 (permalink)
 
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Just listen to the World Service. From the announcers to the programme content, there is nothing to tell you are are listening to Britain.
That'll be why it is called the World Service then.

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Old 19th Jan 2007, 12:25   #18 (permalink)
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Just listen to the World Service. From the announcers to the programme content, there is nothing to tell you are are listening to Britain.
Untrue, there are constant inserts to advise listeners they are listening to the World Service of the BBC.

Irrelevant to this discussion though - the World Service is not funded from the BBC licence, but independently through a separate Parliamentary Grant-in-Aid from the Foreign & Commonwealth Office budget.
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Old 19th Jan 2007, 12:36   #19 (permalink)
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What I would like to know is 'What percentage of the tv tax does the government take'
If the answer is ZERO, then why are they (the government) so keen on making us pay?
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Old 19th Jan 2007, 17:46   #20 (permalink)
 
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Some of you perhaps might benefit from reading this.

The government gets no money from the licence fee. They do, however, require the BBC to use the money for the benefit of the public - this is firmly laid down in the charter. The revised one in fact includes a commitment to provide free digital set-top boxes for the elderly, and others in need, and also an educational remit (like BBC schools stuff).

I think the BBC is caught within a rock and a hard place. Either it competes with other channels, and it's accused of pandering to the lowest common denominator, or it becomes, as someone suggested above, a place for programming that isn't commercially viable (like PBS in the states).

Having seen PBS, I know which I'd rather. I think having an independent voice in this country (anyone who thinks the likes of Sky etc are independent needs their heads checking) is crucial. You just have to look at the way the government reacted to the 'dodgy dossier' affair to see it hates the fact it can't influence the BBC. It would love the new licence fee settlement to strip the BBC of some of its power, but I really hope it doesn't.
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