As reported on todays news ramblers are now demanding access to privately owned areas of the coastland. This demand smacks to me of inverse snobbery. You have it and I want it. But you can bet that these ramblers wouldn't want to contribute to the upkeep of the land they want to trample across. There is plenty of coastline for them to ramble over in their silly socks, but because of shear bloody mindedness they want to trample over the private parts. (As it were )
Would they allow us to come and walk over there back gardens? Errm I doubt that very much.
That was my reaction when I saw it, these people want to be able to go anywhere so that it can be ruined like all the other touristy places. That was one advantage of doing weapon trials work. I used to get acess to places that the general public was excluded from, which ment no litter, well apart from the odd uxb, peacefull and full of wild life.
Would it shock you to know that the great majority of beaches and shoreline in the United States are 'public domain'.?
As in no shoreline is owned or controlled by the property owner of any residence on said shoreline.
There are multi-million dollar homes on the shoreline and anybody and their dog can just use the beach behind these homes as they chose. This especially true in California.
I did know that Con-pilot but over here parts of the costline are privately owned and many of these areas are already accessiable with the consent of the owner.
One thunk nobody could stop yer walking betwixt high and low water mark,no mans land that is any thing you find there is yours even if you stumble over the crown jools King John lost in the Wash, tis yourn, wont even be classed as treasure trove and have to go before a court.
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Ever been up Kinder Scout Lexxity ?---or roamed the Peaks at all ?----if it hadn't have been for Benny Rothman--and a few others---you would still be viewing the delights from a car park in Hayfield wouldn't you ?.
I really don't see any valid reason why, large chunks of the UK coastline should remain in private hands simply to appease and for the benefit of a small minority when, with proper management and regulated access they could be enjoyed by those who wish to enjoy the vistas. Most ramblers are, in my experience, very law abiding and gentle people--the average chav / yob isn't going to extend too much effort in seeking out these walks now is it?--and most ramblers take their litter home as well.
Most ramblers are, in my experience, very law abiding and gentle people--the average chav / yob isn't going to extend too much effort in seeking out these walks now is it?--and most ramblers take their litter home as well.
We probably differ here of course
I used to read a magazine called "The Great Outdoors" I stopped taking it after a while because it got to the state that it was just one winge from start to finish, low flying aircraft, no right to upset the walkers etc, should be baned , when it got round to moaning about people daring to walk up mountains wearing cammy jackets I gave up reading it.
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Originally Posted by green granite
I used to read a magazine called "The Great Outdoors" I stopped taking it after a while because it got to the state that it was just one winge from start to finish, low flying aircraft, no right to upset the walkers etc, should be baned , when it got round to moaning about people daring to walk up mountains wearing cammy jackets I gave up reading it.
Seems a reasonable decision based on the above---I'd have done the same--bit like reading some of the old ALAE diatribes actually---same obscure and insular philosophies applicable only to a few. However, the vast majority are people who basically just want to enjoy the walk / views and company of others---and the freedom to do so. Nothing wrong with that IMHO.
To answer the question from Bluesteel----just a question of semantics really--both are one and the same.
One very nearly killed oneself rambling from Hayden Bridge to Blanchland,the fool who invited me kept assuring me that it was not much further,but every hill had another that lay invisibly behind it,unseen untill one reached the top of the one one was struggling up,,one refuses to walk anywhere now. One had even purchased a new pair of rambling boots for the outing,these were flung into the dustbin upon ones return,well the day after ones return, when could walk again. One ran out of cigges halfway there as well,a fate worse than death.
So what exactly is the difference between a walker and a rambler?
Heaven knows I think that neither can read maps properly (apologise to any sensible ppruners who ramble or walk) but I only rant because at the bottom of our lower paddock we had a public footpath which ran across it and into the next door neighbour's drive. But this seemed to allow those who wanted to wander into the garden and sit down on the veranda if they wanted their picnic or sit by the pond and eat! Drove my mother to complete distraction and father to getting the rock salt in the gun (oh those where the days when you could do that) But they just seemed to expect to be allowed to do it. Even with mum pointing out that this was infact a private garden and not part of the public right of way.
It stopped when a large rotti was purchased who used to be allowed to roam the garden at his own leisure
As for Benny Rothman---yes, he was a communist ( cue pinko leftie etc ) but I think you will find he had the respect of many sections of society for his efforts in working for the benefit of all. Google will tell you more--for those interested enough to have a look.
I am totally in favour of the right to roam, as long as land owners have the right to lay man traps on their land....
The point being that, inevitably, someone will sue when they fall in a hole or trip over a fence - then the H&S freaks will insist that farmers and land owners are responsible for making sure their land is safe for trespassers.
Right to roam.
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