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Old 18th Nov 2004, 23:26   #1 (permalink)

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Rolling Stone Top 200 songs: Modern music crap?

Rolling Stone magazine this month names it's top 500 songs of all time. You will find the Top 200 here.

Guess how many on the list are later than 1990? Count 'em: SIX! Including a mighty TWO in the Top 100..

Maybe it's not just me that lost interest after all.
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Old 18th Nov 2004, 23:33   #2 (permalink)
 
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I can't believe that "Plastic Jesus" isn't on there
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Old 19th Nov 2004, 01:16   #3 (permalink)
 
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Unsurprisingly, the 60's rule, closely followed by the 50's it appears ... difficult to include modern music, since so much of it is unoriginal
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Old 19th Nov 2004, 02:55   #4 (permalink)
 
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bloody 'ell!

Is there a reason two songs - one called "rolling stone" and one by the Rolling stones are top two?!

Police with Every Breath you Take comis in at EIGHTY FOUR?!

Why is Coldplay's Clocks not there?

R-E-S-P-E-C-T at No. 5?!

no Dire Straits....

bah!
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Old 19th Nov 2004, 05:45   #5 (permalink)

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Old 19th Nov 2004, 05:57   #6 (permalink)
 
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"Modern music cr@p?" was the question.

"Definitely, apart from 0.1%", is the answer from this listener.

OK, so it's all a matter of taste etc, but the standard is truly dire, without argument.

In which case, thank christ for the improved sexual content.
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Old 19th Nov 2004, 07:20   #7 (permalink)

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Angel

Buster, I was a bit gobsmacked by Joe's absence too, but clearly not everybody has our high standards.
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Old 19th Nov 2004, 07:53   #8 (permalink)

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Problem is that most of you guys are too lazy to keep up with the great sounds, your ears have simply become de- tuned.

Music has to be listened to, it's not just something that tinkles away in the background. The late great John Peel knew that.

Try Cold Play, Snow Patrol, The Finn Brothers or Natalie Marchant, for example and then try repeating your claims


I bought my first single in 1962 and my most recent album last Wednesday. I make the effort and it is most rewarding.

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Old 19th Nov 2004, 08:03   #9 (permalink)
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Hmmm, I'm hapt to agree with Bombayduck - the top two both have 'Rolling Stone' in either the song or the band name - I sense a fix. As for the winner, oh come on - can't anyone else see that Bob Dylan is a tone deaf hippy with a voice that grates like fingernails on sandpaper.

I'll concede that number two is a decent pop song even though Mick Jagger is a tw@t but Lennon's Imagine at number three? What a dirge... As for the Sex Pistols appearing twice, oh come on...

So yes, modern music is crap but then so was a lot of older stuff too.
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Old 19th Nov 2004, 08:03   #10 (permalink)

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Kind of enjoy Doves at the moment El Grifo, but I draw the line at any song that has "borrowed" a tune from a better version of a song, or one that contains either Ho, Yo or MoFo in it!
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Old 19th Nov 2004, 10:50   #11 (permalink)
 
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can't anyone else see that Bob Dylan is a tone deaf hippy with a voice that grates like fingernails on sandpaper.
AMEN!

At one point I heard U2's One was voted best song - which wouldnt be such a bad thing. Here it is thirty-something Two others make the grade with With Or Without you far, far down than I'd like to see

Another song which I think is fabulous would be Audioslave's Like A Stone.... (not rolling)...

I just noticed something outrageous...

NO PINK FLOYD?!!

No Wall, no Time, no Comfortably Numb!

And with Ozzy on the panel, how the hell doesnt ANYTHING by a metal band make it to the list? No Metallica / Maiden / nothing! Nirvana's Smell's like teen spirit is thankfully there (and rather high too) but thats all is there...

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Old 19th Nov 2004, 11:14   #12 (permalink)

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Well, it seems fairly obvious to me that almost all the songs named have been monster hits somewhere when released as singles, and if not, then like Stairway to Heaven, they are iconic tracks known by everybody with an interest.

Our favourite album tracks are not going to rate a mention. Without going through the whole list again, I'd be surprised if Yes, Genesis, Moody Blues, Supertramp, (and yes, Dire Straits and Pink Floyd) got a passing mention. All among my favourite groups, but I wouldn't expect any of their songs to be named in a list like this.

Don't think there was a Stranglers song in there either, from memory.

( I confess that Hey Jude raised my eyebrows a little though.)
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Old 19th Nov 2004, 13:23   #13 (permalink)
 
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Now, now, Bins...
Don't be naughty with your cheeky attempt to get a response from all of us Stranglers fans.
I'm sure neither VFE, MIB, phnuff, or myself would rise to such obvious baiting
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I see Yesterday is there at number 13. The only reason McCartney wrote that is so elevators could have their own section in the music shop.
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Old 19th Nov 2004, 15:58   #15 (permalink)
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Nirvana's Smell's like teen spirit is thankfully there (and rather high too) but thats all is there
See, not that whole Nirvana thing is totally lost on me. I've heard all the bullsh*t hype about Kurt Cobain and Nirvana being a major influence for Gen-whatever-the-hell my generation are supposed to be. I conceed the music isn't that bad, but is it once again a bandwagon (excuse the pun) that many people simply jumped on because everbody else did? And when Cobain decided to comb his hair with the business end of a shotgun, the hype got even worse. I've heard talk of him being one of the greatest influences on teen music ever. His mate Dave Grohl (of Foo Fighters fame) IMHO is far more talented, yet doesn't truely get recognised for his contributions (a bit like Midge Ure for the whole Band Aid thing, but don't get me started on that!)
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Old 19th Nov 2004, 22:07   #16 (permalink)

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Jerricho...Brother!...I hear what you're saying. DG is so underated, it's just a joke. The Foo Fighters are just so much better than Nirvana, IMHO. Dave Grohl was the drummer in Nirvana, but is lead vocals & lead guitar (I think) with the FooFighters...Did Kurt Cocaine have as much talent???

Midge Ure...Ultravox...I'm getting all misty again. Rage in Eden, arguably their best album & one I could pull out any day of the week. What a voice that guys got, must be the Scot in him.
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Not really a Cobain fan meself - Teen Spirit and Come as you Are are just about what i can stand.... crap such as 'you know you're right' is hard on me ears...

and i dont have much appreciation for 20 somethings that either kill themselves or choke on their own puke, however talented they may be....
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What Cobain did right was this- to be really successful in Music and poetry, you got to die. Very smart career move. Look at Buddy Holly- best career move he ever did.
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Old 20th Nov 2004, 15:31   #19 (permalink)
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Unfortunately Notso you make an excellent point. Recovering from a nasty case of hangover last week I happened to catch a show on VH1 (or something like that) about the top 20 influential deaths in music. This was something I had to watch. Basically, it was a group of wannabe music industry types giving their "Oh, it was really tragic when old mate died" stories. Now, some of them like Freddy Mercury and John Lennon I could kind of see where they were coming from. Then they got to the top couple, and sure enough, Mr Cobain was there with some woman bleating on about how he changed the face of music. What made my blood boil was the way she almost glorified his taking his life, and the message that it sent to his fans was that teenage angst and woes eventually come to and end. Sure is a great role model there. You think your life sucks, here, chew on a Remington sandwich.

Buster, mate! Looks like we finally agree on something
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Old 20th Nov 2004, 17:44   #20 (permalink)
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Funny how they always seem to think these "icons" were amazing after the event. As a youngster I can confirm that Kurt Cobain was an unknown figure amongst kids at school at the time. 'Smells Like Teen Spirit' was a good song but it always annoyed me how Nirvana fans seemed to relish in their apparent misery which if the truth be known they wouldn't have experienced had they not been listening to Nirvana!

You can always spot a Nirvana fan by their self-harming scars.

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