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Old 27th Mar 2017, 05:50
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US requires ACRO and court records when it shows "no live trace" as yours will (only "no trace" is OK for them). Since ABH is very much a "crime involving moral turpitude" (it is actually used as an example in the INA when there is intent to cause bodily harm), you are not eligible to travel to the US.
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Old 27th Mar 2017, 20:27
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Getting a job in an airline is tough enough even after you get through your CPL/IR JOC MCC ATPL exams. There's "thousands" of wannabe FO's out there (Integrated/modular) with no criminal records who after three, four, five, years still have not got that RHS job. Airlines carry out in-depth criminal records searches with police authorities. This is over and above the basic disclosure on-line exercise for the airside pass to very sensitive areas. I feel very sorry for you but that is the reality of the situation. I hope you can find some other less demanding and sensitive career that will be a source of contentment to you.
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Old 27th Mar 2017, 21:33
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Take this as you will - feel free to ignore...

How much do you want to fly? Is flying a passion for you or is being an airline pilot what drives you? (These are not necessarily the same things).

If you potentially have difficulty getting an airline job because of youthful indiscretions but have a real passion for flying, have you thought much about other domestic based non-airline flying jobs?

I believe if you *really* want a job flying because you love flying and are willing to look further than airlines or similar and can do it tough for a few years, there are potential options. Certainly less well paying and less glamorous (at least from the outside) and that require a lot of persistence to get but how much do you want to fly for a living?

One obvious example (assuming your previous record is not really a representation of your nature), people with dedication and persistence, good people skills, life experience, a thoughtful attitude to flying (and a passion for it) can make great instructors. Not lucrative in any way (and that is an issue - little money can make marriages and family raising hard) but good instructors are gold (even if they are not paid much gold). It can be very fulfilling as well.

If you went that route my gut feeling would be to be up front about your past to employers and show (with strong references, clean recent record, community participation etc) how your past is not representative of how you are now. Better they find out from you than discover it themselves and think you have hidden it.
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Old 28th Mar 2017, 08:15
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Assault occasioning ABH will never be filtered from a DBS check so even if it's spent it will still show. https://www.gov.uk/government/public...l-record-check Therefore whilst you have no obligation to tell your potential employer about a spent conviction as the ABH isn't filtered they will see it even on a basic disclosure.
The above says it all. There is no way you will hold an airside pass with a previous ABH. It's with you for life. Many country's will mark you as 'criminally inadmissible'. You have more than one offence that will show on some checks, that makes it even harder.

Have you ever committed, been arrested for, been charged with or convicted of any criminal offence in any country? Select ‘Yes’ if you have ever committed, been charged with or convicted of a crime in any country.
The above is cut and paste from Canada, for example. You cannot even go on holiday there without prior Canadian approval - that's just for a tourist.

Sadly, your (lifetime) ABH is the sticking point here as you will never be deemed rehabilitated.

criminal convictions obtained in the UK are generally assessed under the Rehabilitation of Offenders Act 1974 instead of under the Immigration & Refugee Protection Act. As a result, once your criminal record becomes spent under the 1974 Act, you cease to be inadmissible to Canada and are regarded as ‘deemed rehabilitated’.
Many countries don't welcome criminals for obvious reasons, but what criminal history is relevant and the period that must have elapsed since a conviction varies from country to country. For some countries, particularly Canada and the US, even a minor criminal conviction 50 years ago can cause you to be refused entry, while others would require a conviction for a violent or serious crime to be refused entry.
https://en.wikivoyage.org/wiki/Trave...iminal_history

'Moral Turpitude' is grounds for not being issued a UAE visa also.

Sorry to be the bearer of bad news.

https://www.mygov.scot/disclosure-ty...cotland.co.uk/

Why not apply for your own CRC from disclosure, and see what it says?

You could always work as an instructor from an airfield that does not have an airside pass system. Even bush flying in some countries in Cessna 206/208's etc require a CRC for a visa. Good luck though, and all the best.
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