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Old 11th Jan 2016, 11:59   #1 (permalink)
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Condor Pilot Training

Hello everybody!

Does anybody heard or had any experience with condor pilot training in Spain ( zaragoza ).

They are offering line training in southamerica....

Any experience??
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Old 2nd Feb 2016, 20:13   #2 (permalink)


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about condor

hello
did you have any info on this scheme? because I am looking around and no one seems to know

Thanks
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Old 3rd Feb 2016, 11:25   #3 (permalink)
 
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Why you don't send them an Email and gather some more informsation about the program.

and What do you wanna know, If I can help...
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Old 5th Feb 2016, 13:24   #4 (permalink)
 
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Any news so far?
Someone want add or say something about this Spanish Provider?
thanks for useful Information
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Old 5th Feb 2016, 15:21   #5 (permalink)
 
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Wilco 16 and Flyer 787


Good try to sponsorize Condor aviation by hiding behind a nickname and acting as interested candidates!!
But this is not professional!
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Airgus what's that?
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Old 20th Feb 2016, 11:08   #7 (permalink)


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Hello flyer

I am here for the same reason than you, trying to have some clue about condor training before signing for there South America line training.
Maybe you can contact me on private message, or Skype (same login )...

Best regards
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Old 20th Feb 2016, 19:24   #8 (permalink)
 
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Hope you guys will get screwed big time. That is all you deserve when you consider to do P2F.

ONLY PAX should pay to fly.
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Old 20th Feb 2016, 22:50   #9 (permalink)
 
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For the love of god DON'T DO IT...


P2F is ruining the industry for everyone.
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Old 22nd Feb 2016, 17:33   #10 (permalink)
 
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Undercover promotion of P2F

Moderator please remove this post as it seems to be a clear indirect ad for this p2f.
Let's keep PPRuNe useful.
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Old 22nd Feb 2016, 19:04   #11 (permalink)
 
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Why not leave this thread so that in a few months time we can see the cry babies talking about their lost fortune
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Old 22nd Feb 2016, 19:28   #12 (permalink)
 
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Because god forbid people actually go through with it, in doing so it screws over people at airlines everywhere when it comes to new contracts (through promotion/relocation or just plain forced contracts)
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Old 22nd Feb 2016, 21:32   #13 (permalink)
 
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LlamaFarmer I don0t know your age but this is far away to damage the above...I think you're late..already passed a lot of years since p2f starts!
So no cry now......

and this is all our fault....not just p2f but fault of all the other milion of pilot signingcontract with companies!
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Old 11th May 2016, 09:31   #14 (permalink)
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Hello everybody!

Does anybody heard or had any experience with condor pilot training in Spain ( zaragoza ).

They are offering line training in southamerica....

Any experience??
Guys I contacted them not too long ago. someone told me they're acting third party with an agency. Condor pilot training is a 3x3 kiosk lol located in an airport terminal classified as a merchandiser and not as a ATO( authorized Training Orginization ) I think they're a decent scam. The guy who claimed he's the CEO called me from some sort of Internet device with no number, it just said 'unknown' on my phone. He talked fast and all I understood was pretty much when he said ' okay okay okay, you okay okay, but you okay okay' lol. He said there will be an opening in November and the batch for May was full which I thought that was total bullshit. I got in touch with them through someone from Egypt then they told me to deal with that Egyptian man. Then after few days looks like both condor and that Egyptian whom they told me to contact as their Middle East representative didn't agree on the money which was obvious reason as that Raul emailed me telling me if I need anything I should contact him, who's someone from the HR at condor.

I asked them where they do their line training programs? They said South America. I know for fact that Peru stopped P2F since 2005 as I talked to Peruvian pilots in person through LinkedIn who told me that. That lame CEO of condor said that they are partners with couple airlines in South America without specifying any country or an airline.

In Brazil it's impossible for expats to fly as FO's. Chile, Colombia, el silvador and really few more countries operate the a320 family aircrafts. So I think they're just bunch of scammers. Stay away.
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Old 11th May 2016, 09:34   #15 (permalink)
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hello
did you have any info on this scheme? because I am looking around and no one seems to know

Thanks
Stay away. Wrote something about them. They're a scam.
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Old 18th May 2016, 06:24   #16 (permalink)
 
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Can you elaborate more on the scam? How much are they asking for?

Guys please be careful! Never pay anybody, lets name and shame these people!
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Old 4th Aug 2016, 14:37   #17 (permalink)


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Hello everyone,

I just received the same email, here is text:

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Thank you for your contact, and interest in the A320 program.


We have two slots remaining for the October start.

A320 Program.

Our A320 Cadet Program provides the opportunity to acquire the necessary experience in type that is
required by most airlines.
Program is divided in 4 phases:
1. ICAO Conversion License to Local License (Duration 4 weeks)
2. A320 Type Rating, carried out by the same airline. (Duration 4-6 weeks)
3. 1000 h as a Cadet FO.
4. Renewable contract with the same company as FO. (If the airline decides to hire you permanent)

The maximum duration for the program is 24 months.


A320 Program, Characteristics:
Selected pilots will join our program and make national and international flights in South America, during commercial operations.
To access the program is necessary to prove:
- CPL, ATPL o ATPL (frozen) License
- Valid IR-ME
- Valid Passport
- Min. 200h TT

Pass a personal interview, and an aptitude test in Zaragoza Spain.
Can also be done online via Skype, if you prefer that.
After passed interview you will get full airline details.

Program Benefits:
- 1.000h as Cadet FO with a month $2.000 month salary.
- Renewable contract after Line Training phase as FO with salary up to $5.000.
- Rapid promotion to Captain (3 years average)
- Free Accommodation.

Price and payment plan.
Price for the Condor A320 Pilot Cadet Program is 74,900 € which is a 5.000 EURO discount.
Payment plan is:
- First payment of € 6,000 is due once the candidate is accepted by Condor Pilot, and invited for the interview. (If you for some reason do not pass the interview, the money is refunded)
If you pass the interview, you will get the airline name and full details.
- Second payment of € 68,900 at the latest when you start the license conversion with the airline.



I have attached a PDF file with more info.
They will only provide the name of the company after paying and being approved in the first stage.... I don't know about you... but I think it is a scam.
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Old 5th Aug 2016, 10:35   #18 (permalink)
 
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Just to clarify...

"Condor Pilot Training" - Some unknown/new training organisation in Spain. their website is a little bit light on details (Home - Condor Pilot Training)

"Condor Ab Initio Program" - Something completely different run by the German airline which leads to a job a FO with Condor Airlines.
(https://www.career.aero/condor/de/job/show/id/1744)
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Old 5th Aug 2016, 13:16   #19 (permalink)
 
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Sounds like a good plan to fork 6k euro out of a dozen of idiots that will apply... Because they will pass the interview.
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Old 19th Aug 2016, 13:15   #20 (permalink)


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i traveled to spain and met , mr jesus their and we had a meeting and we discussed everything , that i can bring him dozen of pilots with me and even i dont care about the comission as long the service is provided because they are my fellow pilots , then the second day when i spoke with the guys here in egypt they asked me if i saw the agreement between condor and the airline or not , so i told them no , but i am still in madrid spain so i can travel to see the agreement , and i called mr jesus but he told he cant show the agreement via email because it's confidential so i told him i can travel back to zaragoza to see it and he told me its not with him now it's in the local country with their lawyer office so i told him tha the lawyer can email it to you and then i will come to see it , i am still in madrid , he told no he dont know when he can make it and have the contract and that i leave for now , and now he is not responding my emails neither do yolanda , and the un proffesionel i traveled all the way from egypt paid almost 2000$ and then i see this anyway For more infos contact me on skype (mostafahisham20)
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