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Hi dboy !!
Thanks a lot for your reply !
Interesting story, very interesting info regarding the actual conditions proposed ! I also remarked that having or not the A320 type rating may be decisive for the recruitment team, and was undoubtedly a tactic implemented last year by Wizzair. I went in Bucharest for the November Open Day in 2014 and it appeared later that type rated applicants were put aside for the benefit of unexperienced pilots (as less as 200 hours !) without type rating. Doing so, Wizz had the possibility to deduct 1000€ of monthly salary for a period of 2 years.
What a
aviation world !
Cheers
Thanks a lot for your reply !
Interesting story, very interesting info regarding the actual conditions proposed ! I also remarked that having or not the A320 type rating may be decisive for the recruitment team, and was undoubtedly a tactic implemented last year by Wizzair. I went in Bucharest for the November Open Day in 2014 and it appeared later that type rated applicants were put aside for the benefit of unexperienced pilots (as less as 200 hours !) without type rating. Doing so, Wizz had the possibility to deduct 1000€ of monthly salary for a period of 2 years.
What a
aviation world ! Cheers
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Was at the open day, and invited for selection in March.
30 years old, 2000 hours total, 1600 on business jets, not 320 rated.
If I can make a guess, NAVEX, they were probably looking for people with any JAR 25 rating AND experience on that type. It was in fact mentioned in the requirements.
Do not shoot the messenger, I agree it sucks.
30 years old, 2000 hours total, 1600 on business jets, not 320 rated.
If I can make a guess, NAVEX, they were probably looking for people with any JAR 25 rating AND experience on that type. It was in fact mentioned in the requirements.
Do not shoot the messenger, I agree it sucks.
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Hi 560_Flyer !
Thanks for your reply
Indeed, it seemed they were looking for pilots with some experience and preferably type rated, according to the requirements. With regard to experience on type, I made sure it was not part of their request prior to go and I am sure it isn't mentioned through the pdf document.
On your side, your application is definitely interesting and deserves to be considered.
I wish you the best for the next step in Budapest !
Thanks for your reply
Indeed, it seemed they were looking for pilots with some experience and preferably type rated, according to the requirements. With regard to experience on type, I made sure it was not part of their request prior to go and I am sure it isn't mentioned through the pdf document.
On your side, your application is definitely interesting and deserves to be considered.
I wish you the best for the next step in Budapest !
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I also know from an Pilot which is Type Rated on A320 with 2500 hours on type. And he aint got chance either.
Wizz wants to earn lot of money on low houred and non rated pilots.
And now want to see 500hrs TT ACTUAL flight hours and that stupid nonsense JOC.
Wizz wants to earn lot of money on low houred and non rated pilots.
And now want to see 500hrs TT ACTUAL flight hours and that stupid nonsense JOC.
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About the JOC, debating about its point apart, quick search revealed wildly varying prices.
Any recommendations on a course which offers best ratio of bang/buck (might as well learn something if i have to spend money on it)?
Any recommendations on a course which offers best ratio of bang/buck (might as well learn something if i have to spend money on it)?
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@ NAVEX: thank you very much for the wishes.
When I had the two minutes interview with the recruitment guy in Warsaw he was specifically asking whether my type was JAR23 or 25, and I suspect that if it had been 23 I would not had the invitation. They could have made it more clear in the requirements, true that.
@ P40Warhawk: they seem to prefer non rated candidates, but I do not think they are really making money out of the TR: if you have the cash upfront the cost is 11900 EUR and no deduction from your salary, which is a competitive price I would say. Otherwise they anticipate it for you and take it out of your payslip in a couple of years.
I agree that in a perfect world pilots should not be required to pay or have money deducted for the rating, but that's another story.
When I had the two minutes interview with the recruitment guy in Warsaw he was specifically asking whether my type was JAR23 or 25, and I suspect that if it had been 23 I would not had the invitation. They could have made it more clear in the requirements, true that.
@ P40Warhawk: they seem to prefer non rated candidates, but I do not think they are really making money out of the TR: if you have the cash upfront the cost is 11900 EUR and no deduction from your salary, which is a competitive price I would say. Otherwise they anticipate it for you and take it out of your payslip in a couple of years.
I agree that in a perfect world pilots should not be required to pay or have money deducted for the rating, but that's another story.
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If I can make a guess, NAVEX, they were probably looking for people with any JAR 25 rating AND experience on that type. It was in fact mentioned in the requirements.
Do not shoot the messenger, I agree it sucks
560_Flyer get the point!!
NAVEX320: sorry but you have to read carefully the requirements and in this case as you mentioned it, you don't have!!
you fail to have any JAR 25 Experience!!!!
P40Warhawk: Sorry you TOO cause I'm not agree with your words.
They seem to prefer non rated candidates, but I do not think they are really making money out of the TR: if you have the cash upfront the cost is 11900 EUR and no deduction from your salary, which is a competitive price I would say. Otherwise they anticipate it for you and take it out of your payslip in a couple of years.
I agree that in a perfect world pilots should not be required to pay or have money deducted for the rating, but that's another story.
I agree that in a perfect world pilots should not be required to pay or have money deducted for the rating, but that's another story.
I was at the Bucharest Open day, but it seems you wasn't there!( that's strange anyway..)
Lot of People, different backgrounds ( few cadets, TR with Hours, TR no hours, NTR with hours) and for all the NTR during the interview they had the choice to do the TR with bond or to self sponsor the TR and be able to have a full salary then.( so HR asked evey one, and they follow then the wishes of everyone)..ask anyone in WIZZ they will confirm to you that!
SO YOU'RE CONSIDERATION, FALL HERE.
And I let you know too that a lot of A320 guys with few hours on bus were employed.
All other people from what I saw and heard from the guys themselves, they did not passed the first stage, 1st day assessment, because A lot of them need to review a lot of stuff, and study more
I even don't understand how to get that point and be unprepared!!!!!
Second day some people didn't pass the Sim, and as I heard from the same, they were unstabilized on the LOC...same happen to some NTR guys with even 1500 Hours on other JAR 25 ratings.
I'm not defending anyone nor even Wizz and I just like people know the real things and fact.
Then about the Wizz contract, that's another story, and it's true, sucks!
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The self sponsoring issue, is that with base training included? Or do you have to sign a bond for that?
By then, 3 years ago, the salary without reducing 1000 for the rating, was 1666 eur gross. And you got a per diem of 30 eur gross per sector.
But perhaps in the mean time they have changed the numbers.
By then, 3 years ago, the salary without reducing 1000 for the rating, was 1666 eur gross. And you got a per diem of 30 eur gross per sector.
But perhaps in the mean time they have changed the numbers.
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so you get something like 1800 - 2000 euros? Thats not bad considering the bases wizz operates. Why is everybody talking bad about the company? I know pilots in the EU that earn less and they don't have the chance of building hours on the bus.
Offering the T/R for 11.900 and then a salary like that sounds like a good place to start building some jet hours considering the market at the moment.
On my opinion anyway...
Offering the T/R for 11.900 and then a salary like that sounds like a good place to start building some jet hours considering the market at the moment.
On my opinion anyway...
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The numbers did not change. The bond is still there (15k if I remember well) for 2 or 3 years, whether you self sponsor the rating or not.
Pay for FO is 20k gross, plus 30 eur per leg.
Tax in switzerland (5% roughly) and social security where based. Depending on base you might get service contract through an agency.
Depending on the country you are resident and your commuting status you might have to pay taxes there as well. See double taxation treaty.
SFO 25k a year and something like 35 per leg.
Loss of license and life insurance provided.
Travel benefits: 25 eur per leg on Wizzair flights, 25% discount for up to 5 companions.
Pay for FO is 20k gross, plus 30 eur per leg.
Tax in switzerland (5% roughly) and social security where based. Depending on base you might get service contract through an agency.
Depending on the country you are resident and your commuting status you might have to pay taxes there as well. See double taxation treaty.
SFO 25k a year and something like 35 per leg.
Loss of license and life insurance provided.
Travel benefits: 25 eur per leg on Wizzair flights, 25% discount for up to 5 companions.
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Not sure about it, sorry, but they have a factorization system based on type of hours. Off the top of my head I remember something like 2000/2500 factorized hours. Not sure if you can join straight as a SFO.
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so you get something like 1800 - 2000 euros? Thats not bad considering the bases wizz operates. Why is everybody talking bad about the company? I know pilots in the EU that earn less and they don't have the chance of building hours on the bus.
Offering the T/R for 11.900 and then a salary like that sounds like a good place to start building some jet hours considering the market at the moment.
Offering the T/R for 11.900 and then a salary like that sounds like a good place to start building some jet hours considering the market at the moment.
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Sorry i didn't get that. 
If you are not from eastern EU and you get based for example in Budapest you can't rent a house and live there?
I am not interested in commuting contracts anyway. I love eastern EU and i would like to live there for some years.
If you are not from eastern EU and you get based for example in Budapest you can't rent a house and live there?
I am not interested in commuting contracts anyway. I love eastern EU and i would like to live there for some years.
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Sorry i didn't get that.
If you are not from eastern EU and you get based for example in Budapest you can't rent a house and live there?
I am not interested in commuting contracts anyway. I love eastern EU and i would like to live there for some years.
If you are not from eastern EU and you get based for example in Budapest you can't rent a house and live there?
I am not interested in commuting contracts anyway. I love eastern EU and i would like to live there for some years.
Normal people have a life and house, i think, so if you are prepared to go any eastern country you have to keep in mind that you'll have 2 houses to pay!
anyway let's say you don't have anything to pay in your home country, salary is very low for a PILOT POSITION, don't you think?
Do you understand that you're gonna fly an aircraft with 180 pax,in a foreign country, where you have to pay for your accomodation, food, pay to come back home and back etc.
If you think that 1.6 k x month is good to be a professional pilot so maybe I lost my mind and ..please Go Ahead....
Budapest...mmm well you should be so lucky to get there...but probably you'll be relocated in Sofia or Craiova or any other
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TR 320 (2 options)
Wizz option
30.000 eur
3 years bond
Lump sum after the bonding 7500 eur
FSC option
11900 eur special price for Wizz. Includes the base training organised by the company
Training pilots salary
F0 earns 12000 EUR per year
SFO earns 132000 EUR per year
To be considered sfo you need 2800 hours factorised.
Standard pilots salary
FO earns 20000 eur per year
SFO earns 25000 eur per year
CPT earns 40000 eur per year
Sector pay
FO 30 eur
SFO 39 eur
CPT 78 eur
Sectors are S-M-L-XL so you have a correction factor for each
Salaries and sector also varies depending on the base...
Wizz option
30.000 eur
3 years bond
Lump sum after the bonding 7500 eur
FSC option
11900 eur special price for Wizz. Includes the base training organised by the company
Training pilots salary
F0 earns 12000 EUR per year
SFO earns 132000 EUR per year
To be considered sfo you need 2800 hours factorised.
Standard pilots salary
FO earns 20000 eur per year
SFO earns 25000 eur per year
CPT earns 40000 eur per year
Sector pay
FO 30 eur
SFO 39 eur
CPT 78 eur
Sectors are S-M-L-XL so you have a correction factor for each
Salaries and sector also varies depending on the base...