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Interviews, jobs & sponsorship Do ya feel lucky, Punk? Well do ya? If so, here's the place to swap the hot gen on who's sponsoring or employing, their selection criteria, and where those oh so elusive first jobs can be spotted in the wild. Watch out for the tumbleweeds...


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Old 6th Nov 2012, 10:54   #81 (permalink)
 
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Spot on FANS.
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Old 6th Nov 2012, 18:25   #82 (permalink)


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EASA class 1 medical certificate

Does anybody know if the EASA class 1 medical certificate is required at the first selection process? if not, at which stage?

thanks!
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Old 6th Nov 2012, 21:08   #83 (permalink)
 
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Not required. Have you read the requirements?

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Old 6th Nov 2012, 22:21   #84 (permalink)


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haha thanks! i just saw it carified in the FAQs.
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Old 6th Nov 2012, 22:25   #85 (permalink)
 
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If you read the FAQs on the FPP website, you will find that the Class 1 Medical isn't required until selection has been carried out.
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Old 6th Nov 2012, 22:37   #86 (permalink)


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Plan B

Thanks! I guess I was nervous about not having last minute surprises.
I´m applying but seems like it´s not going to be easy though.

I consider that I should have plan B. but not many other CADET programs taking place soon ahead, does anybody knows about future cadet programs..Easyjet, Monarch, anything for europeans?

Or should I go on my own to South Africa without the cadet UMBRELLA?, good value, heard many positive comments on some schools there like Progress Flight Academy..

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Old 7th Nov 2012, 00:09   #87 (permalink)
 
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Bellamafia,
Mixed fleet and FPP are two very different things. FPP graduates will be on the same contract as all other BA pilots. Same paypoint system but yes longer to reach the top. Same bidline same DC pension as recent joiners. If BA hadn't closed the DB scheme to new entrants then I doubt BA would be the success that it is. No BA pilot wants new entrants to be on inferior Ts and Cs but we have to negotiate with the company and not fight battles that we won't win. A look at SEPLAs predicament says it all.
The pay differentials between a pilot and a cc member on an EF or WW contract have reduced we took a paycut they didnt but the cost is that there is no promotion and all recruitment is to mixed fleet .
I applaud BAs FPP it allows anyone the opportunity to join BA but BA have to sign contracts with the FTOs and feel responsible to give jobs to the graduates from the courses. If the need for recruitment slows as the bmi merger shows, the easiest tap to turn off is the DEP selection process but if the tap suddenly needs turning on again those swimming in the pool will be in a BA uniform pretty quickly.
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Old 7th Nov 2012, 01:03   #88 (permalink)
 
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Stocious, you seem to be in the know, do you know the min and max age range last year?
Min - 18
Max - maybe late 30's? Unsure exactly as not that 'in the know'
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Old 7th Nov 2012, 06:20   #89 (permalink)
 
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Min 17 (18 at the time he started)
Max that I know of was mid 40's
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Old 7th Nov 2012, 07:15   #90 (permalink)
 
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Whenever a new batch of FPP cadets start, their group picture is published in our Flight Ops weekly roundup. There were definitely more 'mature' candidates as well as younger men and women. BA is obsessed about being fair and open to anyone who applies. If you make the grade, answer the questions in the way BA wants you to, and meet the minimum criteria, you are in with the same chance as anyone.
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Old 7th Nov 2012, 10:12   #91 (permalink)
 
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BA looks really obsessed about equal opportunities judging from this little piccy!

http://sphotos-b.ak.fbcdn.net/hphoto...71255132_n.jpg
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Old 7th Nov 2012, 11:06   #92 (permalink)
 
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Nae gingers to be seen.

And they don't seem to have a problem with baldys.
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Old 7th Nov 2012, 11:30   #93 (permalink)
 
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Nae gingers to be seen.
That's because, if Alex Salmon gets his way, yae'll all be damn foreigners and commuters!!!! Not even in the EU by dammit!

They are all clones I tell you!
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Old 7th Nov 2012, 11:47   #94 (permalink)
 
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We are just humouring that divet just now.

Aye clones with huge baldy nappers.

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Old 7th Nov 2012, 12:14   #95 (permalink)
 
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This is a great programme no doubt, if you are lucky enough to be ''future captain'' material like BA see it as. However that percentage is very small, at least with Ryanair your on a level playing field as long as you have passed everything first time, and if you do modular+ type rating it is still a lot cheaper than this programme (and quicker on the line). Also yes with BA you will have a UK base but in London, therefore extortionate rent/accommodation costs if you have to relocate. Just something to think about...
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Old 7th Nov 2012, 12:57   #96 (permalink)
 
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I would disagree. Assuming one doesn't have the £84k for the FPP, they would be taking a loan and probably paying back around £120k. BA return the £84k over your employment, so you would end up footing the bill for the interest at around £40k. A Ryanair type-rating is E30k. Add that to a modular CPL/IR and you would have to do very well to beat the FPP cost - and this is in its most expensive case where one requires a loan for the full cost of the course. Remove the need of a loan for the full amount and it becomes even more cost effective. Your option also assumes that one would get a job with Ryanair having already committed to the license cost. It isn't that easy when there are thousands queuing up for the dubious pleasure of flying for Ryanair.

Then you consider the long-term career prospects at Ryanair vs BA, the security of having an actual employment contract + benefits, the fact you have an employer who isn't actively trying to screw you over every 5 minutes and it becomes a no contest.
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Old 7th Nov 2012, 13:00   #97 (permalink)
 
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I a firmly believe that whoever is right for job should get the job. It shouldn't matter what colour you are, what sex you are or whether your gay or straight. However I have to say that judging by the lack of females on the OAA course and lack of ethnicity, I find this somewhat concerning and hope its purely by chance.
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Old 7th Nov 2012, 13:10   #98 (permalink)
 
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I met a female currently on the FPP during the Flyer event at Heathrow; she's gone through CTC.
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Old 7th Nov 2012, 13:56   #99 (permalink)
 
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at least with Ryanair
This scheme and RYR's are beyond comparison. I can't understand why people are trying to pick holes in what is an outstanding opportunity by today's low standards.

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However I have to say that judging by the lack of females on the OAA course and lack of ethnicity, I find this somewhat concerning and hope its purely by chance.
I would say that BA know only too well the importance of minorities. From memory, a decade + ago they were going to advertise in minority type magazines to ensure they got a broad cross section applying.

The wider issue then was the somewhat disproportionate number of BA pilots' kids getting through, but who can blame them!
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Old 7th Nov 2012, 15:05   #100 (permalink)
 
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Really?? BA's pilots children being overly accepted? Hmmmmm.
I was just shocked to not find one Black, Asian, Hispanic or female cadet at OAA.
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