Interviews, jobs & sponsorshipDo ya feel lucky, Punk? Well do ya? If so, here's the place to swap the hot gen on who's sponsoring or employing, their selection criteria, and where those oh so elusive first jobs can be spotted in the wild. Watch out for the tumbleweeds...
Flybe are a fantastic company. I wouldn't mind having a conditional offer of employment straight after completing my training. As for the type, as long as it flies, i'm a happy fella.
For someone looking to get a reasonably safe entry into the profession there are few better schemes. No not the most useful type to have but taking the long view, moving up in the industry is all about having the hours. 1500 hours on a dash with an ATPL will open up many more doors than 250 hours CPL/IR followed by three years of non-flying work. It is a bit like snakes and ladders, when you find a ladder in this industry you a fool if you don't climb it when you have the chance - with the snakes you don't get the luxury of choice.
Unfortunately, in the current climate, turboprop hours are worth nothing. You will still have to buy a jet type.
Not saying it's right. Just the way things are at the moment. Hopefully in 5 years time the rich kids will have bankrupt their parents, and left the market.
Or with the inevitable smoking hole, the rules will change!
Plenty of people have within the past 12 months moved and are moving from BE with only TP hours to BA, Monarch, Qatar, Fly Dubai and maybe some I don't know about. Thankfully recruiters for airlines think TP hours are worth something even if you don't.
Flybe may be a good airline to start your carreer, but I would not reccomend stella. From what I have been through there: my advice is ... Well who cares about my advice,
They are only concerned about the money you pay. It's also the flightschool that increased from 50 to 150 students per year during the biggest crisis we've ever had. But they don't mind cuz it's only about the money you pay!
FlyBe might be a nice company to work for, but they pay you shit! Don't forget that you still have to pay back 80K/100K for your flighttraining so take of 1000 euro per month to pay your loan back and then tell me again what you're really earning at FlyBe... ().
And about the MPL, it was designed to make the flighttraining cheaper. But it only made the training worse because you are dedicated to one company. And therefore it is ridicolous to pay 100K for a training and to get a license to work only for one (!) company that pay's .... They do not even guarantee a job!
So whoever is interested, dont do it:
- payment
- huge loan
- no garantee
You end up paying the bill and taking all the risks!!
They pay you ? I think it's 28k starting salary... not bad for your first job in the industry! You also don't have to pay for your TR (well you are bonded for it and only have to pay should you decide to leave before 3 years).
OK, They don't guarantee you a job, but you get a conditional offer of employment if you successfully complete the course to the specified standard. Even BA didn't guarantee their cadets a job 20 years ago.
Edit: before you ask, no, I haven't applied nor am I in any way involved with this scheme.
Last edited by average-punter; 13th Aug 2012 at 12:02.
At current exchange rate basic Y1 FO salary is just over €36k. Not breathtaking but four years in and on the ejet as SFO you will earn €60k basic. I you then consider the extras LOL cover, health insurance and pension then it doesn't start to look so bad for a first job. Not perfect by any means but equally there are plenty of worse packages out there.
What makes you think that you will get anywhere near a jet in the next 7/8 years!
Remember, you are tied to the company. You will be handed the shitty end of the stick forever, as you have no choice but to accept!
I'm not quite sure what you are getting at. New joiners through mentored schemes (including MPL of which we have plenty already) join the seniority list same as everyone else and have the same prospects as everyone else in the company - in line with seniority. With a growing Ejet fleet, in future the norm will be 3-5 years dash before changing type. If the employment market improves expect this to shorten as skippers and FOs with experience move on.
Sorry for the thread drift.
Last edited by speedrestriction; 18th Aug 2012 at 11:08.
I applied a few days after the applications had opened. I was offered the dates 21st and 22nd (Tomorrow!), but I've a uni exam on Thursday. They were quite understanding and put me on the 2nd assessment from what i'm aware, which is 3rd and 4th September.
Flybe/Stella aviation MPL part sponsorship
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