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Hi. For those fresh CPL/IR's job hunting - I understand the need to obviously keep current, but if it's lapsed, why can you not wait to revalidate the IR until you get a sniff of a job? I guess the answer is that you're unlikely to get a sniff if you're not current, but at the end of the day, if you're only doing enough to validate the rating it's neither here nor there anyway is it? Can you not still apply without stating the IR has lapsed?
Sure you can apply without stating the ir is lapsed, but when youre sitting in the interview room im 100% sure they will look at you licence....when they see you have an expired ir i doubt they would be very impressed.
You are always free to try without a valid IR. But consider this:
Do you really want to risk not getting a job in a period where there aren't that many pilot jobs available?
It doesn't take that much to keep an IR valid. The benefits far outweigh the cost, especially compared to what you probably already invested to get that IR anyway... Your licence really shouldn't be where you save money if you ask me.
For many operators a current IR is an absolute must, especially when recruitment is in a boom cycle. Interview on the Friday, pack suitcase at the weekend, and away on TR on the Monday. They dont have time to sit and wait for people to go an revalidate ratings. Not current...no interview. Harsh but true im afraid. At the moment however, its not even worth doing an IR in the first place. Anyone doing an IR just now would be as well booking their renewal for next year.
just to point out, 80% of FI (flight instructors) do not have a current IR rating.
Yes: for a high performance rating i.e type rating, you do need a current IR rating + a current MEP rating as well.
however, at the moment its very hard to get a flying job. the last i heard of one first officer job that was being offered in january on a B737 there where over 600 people who appiled.
The more likely questions; is when did you do your last flight? how many hours have you done in the last 6 months?
yes, if you can keep it up, thats the main idea. so if you were often a job tomorrow you could fill it. but some company can take months to book you in for a type rating, i.e ryanair. you don't go for an interview and then your doing your type rating next week...
If your in a position where you have a multi crew type on licence(current or not) then renewing your sep-me-ir would in my view be a waste of cash unless you needed some form of instrument qualification to instruct, examine or your second type rating course requested you get it current. I only did this as I'm an IMC examiner and needed this qualification but I wont renew this year as my IR minima will down grade to IMC minima for a further 13mths which is ample.
If your waiting for your first type rating course then yes you will need to have a current IR but then you have to ask how long will it be before getting that break? I know pilots that have got interviews and in the few days leading upto interview they have gone out and got current. Its a tough decision and you have to find a balance between remaining in current practice and not spending vast amounts.
I've never flown single pilot IFR and most likely never will but kept it current each year and when I got into my first multi crew job I immediately thought what a complete waste of time that sep ir was.
Well, I bought a shiny new motorbike with the money I had previously saved up for my multi/ir renewals over the past couple of years. I am having such a blast on my bike, whizzing through the country roads. This money would really have been pi***d away on renewals.
Have had discussions about need for current ir/multi with future employer on twin. I said that money is tight and I could not justify cost of renewals and I do not need it for my current flying. Was told the person is most important an would get the nod when to get my revalidation so as not to blow away £££.
Don´t p*ss your money away without any sign of a job !!!!!!!
A current single pilot IR is only needed for issue of your first multi crew type rating. Now you have a Multi crew Rating on your license you may now add another multi crew type (JAR25) with out holding a current IR.
So if you were offered a job on another JAR/CS 25 type then regulation wise there is no requirement for you to have the SPA or MPA ME current (as Sky Captain has stated).
Greenwings when you join an operator they will need to do an OCC (operational conversion course) where you will do an OPC anyway which can be used to revalidate your rating (now it is down to the company if they will accept you without the rating current).
Now you do raise a good question concerning the JAR23/ Single Pilot types, now King Airs , Beech 1900s although often operated multi crew are only single pilot class / type ratings.
Now I couldn't find an answer in Lasors. So with a lapsed SPA ME IR but and a MPA type non current (but expired less than 5 years) you can definately still undertake another MPA type, but it isn't clear if you can still then add a single pilot class/type rating without renewing the SPA MEIR first.
Now for the five and seven year rules it doesn't matter which IR has been renewed aslong as you have renewed an IR in that time.
I would think NOT having a valid IR, will not exactly help you.
I know of guys being offered jobs recently, and one of the criteria was a valid IR! Many instructors I know, struggle to go just because of that, the pay is bad, so they do not have enough money to keep renewing it every year, the problem than is that they also are not available for job opportunities that might come up on short notice.
As I see from many adverts, if you don't have your IR current, you will not even be considered it seems.
I don't really understand, after spending £40.000 - £60.000, why you would want to save on keeping your licence current, it should be priority ahead of most other things in your life, if you want to get a job I would think!