The Lead Sparrow

I have just found out that the Zambian authorities now require 1000 hours
even for a job on a 172 doing safari work.

Its not rumour control, I am actually here in Zambia looking for my first job.

I am stunned.

Any information on this new rule would be appreciated.

The pay here seems to be $1000 to $2000 a month. Any 1000 hour chaps out there fancy that?

Ronand

Yeah I recently applied to Proflight Zambia. At least they were kind enough to reply that I need at least 1000hrs to do anykind of flyingjob down there.
"All candidates have to have a minimum of 1000 hours total time due to Zambian DCA requirements."
It seems that most operators in Africa now require more than 500hrs even for small SE prop safari operations. This will basically cut out all the wannabes straight from flightschool......
Nice, isn't it.....

Ronand

As I said Proflight Zambia if you have more than 1000TT.... If you have a rating on Caravan or any of their types you will have even better chances of getting a job there...
Cheers

Captain_djaffar

that's really silly.
How will the fresh cpl 200hr chap get his first work if the minimum req. is 1000hrs for ANY kind of flying job??????

And at the same time, most of those above 1000hrs are already trying to have their a** on any line RHS.

powerstall

Sometimes, it's the insurance company who's dictating the experience needed....

EladElap

I don't think it's a bad thing at all. Single engine piston, single crew flying can and is some of the most demanding flying you'll ever do in your life. The Zambian DCA is obviously just trying to improve their safety record and look after the tourism industry out there.

gerpols

Guys,

I am sorry to inform you that the Zambian DCA requires 1000 hours PIC time after obtaining your non Zambian CPL-Instr rating, to obtain a validation.
Sorry to inform you about this, but what it comes down to is that you will probably need more than 1200 hours of flighttime in your logbook.
What Zambia is doing is actually implementing ICAO ruling.
I am a Dutchman and when I wanted to validate my FAA ATPL to a national Dutch CPL, the Dutch DCA also required 1000 hrs flighttime after obtaing my FAA CPL-Instr rating.

Good luck everyone, and keep in mind, there are still plenty African nations that still have not implemented this ICAO ruling.

flying paddy

Guys read this:

http://www.peter2000.co.uk/aviation/...ce/159-161.pdf

Cheers

FP

Captain_djaffar

If its ICAO ruling, then it would certainly be THE standard to be adopted later on at some point by all the countries.

Where and how would they expect someone with a CPL/IR to reach 1000 hrs before being eligible for employment??
I think it got more to do with employment by third countries.

Or am I missing something?

gerpols

Yes, you are missing out on something.
These requirements are for valadation of a foreign licence.
If you stay in the country that issued your licence,there is no issue !!

Pace152

Does that affect the people who are already out there working in Zambia who have less than 1000 hours?

I was out there myself working earlier this year, and I have less than 1000 hours.

Its gonna be bad news for some people I worked with out there if this is the case. Hopefully it wont effect them.

Bla Bla Bla

Captain D,

Yes you are missing something and that is the fact that they do not care how you get your first 1000hrs as its not their problem.

On a purely selfish note, excellent news less competition for me.

flying paddy

Guys

This ruling will not apply to those looking to work in Maun. Here you have to convert to a Botswana licence first, there are no validations.

So there is still a little light at the end of the tunnel.

All the best in finding that first job.

FP

scratchingthesky

Here is an idea.......

finish cpl and then do an instructors rating to build hours......

worked for me

Ronand

@scratchingthesky
There are almost no instructor jobs vacant in europe at the moment! That's a fact.... And those available will be mostly filled in by experienced instructors....
cheers

Neptunus Rex

Experienced Instructors? Whatever next!

ford cortina

Ronand and others, sorry to hear this, BUT you should have looked into this before starting out on the road, there are lots of CPL holders out there who never get jobs in aviation. Sad but true.

scratchingthesky

@Ronand

Just like there are NO JOBS PERIOD! for low houred pilots at the moment.....(please anyone correct me if I am wrong? as my airline not recruited any for 3 years)

Baby to lay off another 54 x 737 pilots!

The amount of Experienced TR pilots on the market is astounding!
Those still in work (including myself) are fearing for our positions, I have friends in EZE, BMIR and corporate who all feel the same, that we are hanging on by a thread, or at least fearing that we will have to take a paycut and/or part time summer only working.

It is going to take a while for this industry to recover (if it does!) unless you wish to spend even more and pay to work for FR!, lets be honest even MOL seems nervous to commit to anymore aircraft (what does that tell you!).

I see that you are listed as residing in Dublin, what are you thoughts on Aer Lingus? do you think MOL will get it this time in Jan 2010? he has £2.8 Billion in the bank, imagine how he will desimate the workforce, fleet and terms and conditions if he gets his hands on it!

rant over

MIKECR

Well its pretty dire but a certain uk airline north of the border just interviewed and sim checked a batch of new potential FO's. All low hour chaps and FI's.

Agreed however that in the main, its pretty grim recruitment wise.

The Lead Sparrow

Thanks Paddy,

I am trying to get to Maun at the moment from the Copperbelt in the north of Zambia! It's a challenge to say the least.

Have you flown there?

I am trying to get to see someone at Sefofane Air Charters.

They ask you to take an exam which covers both personal and technical aspects before the interview. Any knowledge of the questions?

Or if anyone out there has any knowledge it would be appreciated.

Regards a very heavy Lead Sparrow!

Can I take this opportunity to say thanks to everyone for there help so far.