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Old 5th Oct 2007, 22:11   #1 (permalink)
 
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Loganair recruitment

Anyone know if Loganair are recruiting FO's at the minute and if so what experience levels they are looking for. I heard that new aircraft are on the way, which I guess means more crews required?
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Old 6th Oct 2007, 11:58   #2 (permalink)
 
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They took some FI's from Tayside just in the last few weeks. Two had quite a lot of instructing time under their belts, the other didnt.
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Old 6th Oct 2007, 18:18   #3 (permalink)
 
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What kind of new aircraft are they getting?
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Old 7th Oct 2007, 15:44   #4 (permalink)
 
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3 Saab 340Bs have been approved for purchase

And yes they do seem to be recruiting, although not in any great volume. A CPL/IR and MCC with the bare minimum of hours meets their requirements, however with this alone your cv will often travel to the bottom of the pile. A recommendation from someone who has a bit of influence will usually go a long way so I'm told.

I also believe Paul Dandeker will have less involvment with recruitment as of this month. I was informed a new appointment has been made in this area. Will be interesting to see any changes this may bring?
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Old 8th Oct 2007, 21:01   #5 (permalink)
 
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You just need to have an ATPL to be a Captain - hence 2 excursions onto the grass at LDY and KOI recently...lots of young immature people in LHS at LOGI.

The new recruitment guy should hopefully begin to recover some of the inexperienced management decsions taken by the previous team.
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Old 9th Oct 2007, 06:38   #6 (permalink)
 
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What happened at KOI & LDY?
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Old 9th Oct 2007, 09:29   #7 (permalink)
 
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You just need to have an ATPL to be a Captain - hence 2 excursions onto the grass at LDY and KOI recently...lots of young immature people in LHS at LOGI.

SD haven't heard of anyone going on to the grass at either destinations. How recent are we talking about here.
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Old 10th Oct 2007, 08:53   #8 (permalink)
 
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The SF340 at Derry was a Loganair SF340 and nose wheel steering, well, it's a possible problem on the Saab.

I think the point that is been made, rather harshly put, that the experience levels at the front of these Logi Saabs are now zero in both seats. And they are now seeing what happends when you promote people into the LHS that are generally known to be not suitable but hey, have an ATPL.

D2's idea of bringing in Self Sponsored type rated guys from Sweden is false economy, i'm sure Scott Grier would think it's great but these guys are looking at going home the day they arrive...the longterm cost of this goes to Loganair.

Really sad cos it's truly a great company with awesome flying.
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Old 10th Oct 2007, 16:29   #9 (permalink)
 
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Shame the company pays peanuts, as i'm sure, with a decent wage, many would stay on!!

Hi ho !
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Old 11th Oct 2007, 18:25   #10 (permalink)
 
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Let's hope Logan have reinstated the tradition of employing FIs based in Scotland. When I was looking for a job they would always make up a load of b^%ocks about requirements. 1000hrs, 1500hrs blah blah blah. I was based at one of their bases had over 1000hrs and a personal recomendation and it meant squat to PDD. Then you would see a 160 hr Cabair person online and already asking for a transfer. Let's hope they have learned their lesson.
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Old 13th Oct 2007, 09:17   #11 (permalink)
 
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Think this thread is creeping a little bit. I realise the name rumour appears on the title of this website, but for the moment could we stick to the facts!
slamaccel - to answer your question - yes three 340 B aircraft arriving, (date of which as yet unknown), however at the moment it's looking like there will only be a net increase of one, as two will prob replace the two leased 340 A's at EDI.
In addition at the moment, crew compliment seems to be fairly settled, not many leaving. saying that however it does appear that recruitment is continuing.
SD & Duir. Think if I were you I'd try my level best to get my facts straight before posting nonsense.
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Old 13th Oct 2007, 12:42   #12 (permalink)
 
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JTFC

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Duir. Think if I were you I'd try my level best to get my facts straight before posting nonsense
Would you like me to send you a copy of the emails that Logan sent me with hrs requirements changing each time or would you prefer to come and meet the low hrs integrated pilots they took on in person?
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Old 13th Oct 2007, 13:02   #13 (permalink)
 
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JTFC How about being more specific about the facts you claim are not straight, and putting the record straight yourself?
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Old 13th Oct 2007, 14:33   #14 (permalink)
 
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SD. Think if I were you I'd try my level best to get my facts straight before posting nonsense
Prove me wrong on the facts, PM me, not on an open forum...
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Old 14th Oct 2007, 09:41   #15 (permalink)
 
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SD. Thanks, will do.

Duir. Looking forward to the introductions - guessing it won't take that long!
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Old 14th Oct 2007, 15:07   #16 (permalink)
 
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low houred integrated variety

From the OAT website; Loganair Graduate intakes

2007 (so far)

3 Oxford Grads

2006
1 Oxford Grad

2005

7 Oxford Grads

While I accept the fact that a few of these guys may have went off to do an FIC, dropped meatballs, towed banners...whatever; I would imagine that a large majority were recruited with the bare minimum of hours. And this is Oxford alone.

I kNOW of at least 2 integrated students who were taken out of an FTE course this year (they were on my friends TR course in Sweden) and Cabair publically advertise that graduates have been taken from them also (albiet it may not be completely 'direct')

Therefore JTFC, I wouldn't discount duir's comment. You may be spending a little more time meeting low houred integrated graduates than you first anticipated.

p.s. this insn't any sort of gripe at Loganair's recruitment. It obviously works for them and these guys have been taken on some degree of merit I'm sure. I also know that they take low houred modular guys as well, along with instructors who have built a little SEP time. So fairs fair
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Old 14th Oct 2007, 15:30   #17 (permalink)
 
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Just with reference to some comments i have read

I haven't seen any evidence of "immatureness" if thats a word, when controlling the LOG crews in and out of PB (LSI). In fact they seem to have some of the best airmanship skills i've seen, given the very testing conditions that can occur.

Well done all.....
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Old 14th Oct 2007, 22:06   #18 (permalink)
 
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Immaturity?
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Old 14th Oct 2007, 22:09   #19 (permalink)
 
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They are also after direct entry captains. This kind of suggests that they don't have enough pilots "coming through." It's not just low hour pilots that have been targeted, they are also after people with hours. I was offered a job by them recently and I have the 1000+ hours and a fairly varied background.
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"immaturity"

thats the one... it had been a loooong day
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