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Interviews, jobs & sponsorship Do ya feel lucky, Punk? Well do ya? If so, here's the place to swap the hot gen on who's sponsoring or employing, their selection criteria, and where those oh so elusive first jobs can be spotted in the wild. Watch out for the tumbleweeds...


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Old 14th October 2007, 12:36   #1001 (permalink)
 
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Cheers, hopefully see you out there before I leave in Dec 08.

Good luck mate and stick at it
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Old 16th October 2007, 12:25   #1002 (permalink)
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Phase 3 on the 18th Oct

Anyone out there also on it???
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Old 16th October 2007, 13:18   #1003 (permalink)
 
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What about after course completion

The only information that every seems to be listed on PPRuNe is about the selection process and what who has been successful in en-rolling on the course. Can someone please point me in the direction of the information about what happens to the cadets once they have completed the course. How long do they wait in a hold pool? What percentage progress to airline jobs with CTC partners?

The CTC cadets strikes me as a very well regarded and professional course hence the high competition and difficulty in securing places. I just find it strange that there is very little information on the cadets after completion although I can find lots on the wings ATP's.
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Old 16th October 2007, 14:35   #1004 (permalink)
 
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I believe that so far everyone who has successfully completed training has been placed with an airline - 100% employment rate.

After completing the CPL/IR with ATPL credits, you then go on to do the Airline Qualification Course and begin type rating for the aircraft you are going to go onto. I think cadets are generally ''tagged'' by the selected airline during the end phases of training.

CTC said that there may be a couple of weeks wait before starting the AQC, I think recently there has been a bit of a holdpool due to the situation with the airlines, easyjet over-crewed and all the mergers.

This info may be wrong tho, maybe someone who's been through the process already can better comment.
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Old 16th October 2007, 15:45   #1005 (permalink)
 
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Hold

I know of a guy who is waiting 10-12 weeks between the intermediate phase (end of ME/IR) and advanced phase (type rating, MCC ect with the partner airline) at the moment but that is the longest wait I have heard about for a wings cadet. Up to now all have got jobs but it is worth baring in mind that this i not promised by CTC but i think it would harm their reputation (which is a major trading point for them) should someone not become employed.

EZYramper i believe i will be going out to NZ with you (i'm on cp56) look forward to meeting you guys, will join the facebook group as soon as i can.

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Old 16th October 2007, 17:39   #1006 (permalink)
 
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Afternoon all

i passed my stage 2 last week and thoroughly overjoyed. I have already guessed stage 3 will be more rigorous. any help on how to prepare for the interview? i have heard thet they ask you what you know about the partner airlines, their fleet, history, etc, and some technical aspects of the aircraft they fly.
is there any other relevant info you could throw my way to help me?

much appreciated guys

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Old 17th October 2007, 11:06   #1007 (permalink)
 
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AdamLT,

Dont know but perhaps some industry news and stuff about the financial/business sectors? they're all related.. makes you look intelligent too if you ramble on about how the state of the markets may affect the future of aviation
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Old 17th October 2007, 11:43   #1008 (permalink)
 
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cheers rick0. yep, im always reading Flight International to keep up on the business side of things.
cheers for your note
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Old 17th October 2007, 15:08   #1009 (permalink)
 
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In my interview they just asked "if we were sitting in the crew room now, what aviation related subjects would we be talking about?".

So I just gave a few examples of current events and that was that, about 3% of the interview.

The rest of it was spent giving examples of where I'd done this and that and the other.
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Old 18th October 2007, 08:48   #1010 (permalink)
 
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Bank

Hello everyone,

I'm trying to sort all the stuff that comes after stage 4 and I was wondering if everyone has decided to go with HSBC for the bond

And for the insurance what has people gone for ?

thanks
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Old 18th October 2007, 11:34   #1011 (permalink)
 
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Unless you've got a spare £60k lying around, I highly doubt you'll have much choice other than to go with HSBC! Go into any other bank and ask for £60k unsecured to fund pilot training and they'll probably laugh in your face. Even my local branch of HSBC wouldn't believe me until I showed them the letter from the Hythe branch.
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Old 18th October 2007, 12:14   #1012 (permalink)
 
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In my interview they just asked "if we were sitting in the crew room now, what aviation related subjects would we be talking about?".

So I just gave a few examples of current events and that was that, about 3% of the interview.

The rest of it was spent giving examples of where I'd done this and that and the other.
Me too. I spoke for about 2 seconds on Pilot Fatigue and was told to move on, then got about 2 seconds in about the environmental impact of air travel and was told to move on then I spoke about the Open Skies Agreement between Europe and the Yanks.

I assume they kept moving me on to make sure I had researched something more than just 1 topic.
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Old 18th October 2007, 14:12   #1013 (permalink)
 
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:(

Hi guys

Well I got to phase 3 which i had yesterday. The day was enjoyable & the ctc guys are very nice.

I thought I performed quite well in the group exercises contributing and giving sensible ideas , maybe questioning others but remaining polite.I felt I showed a fair bit of leadership in the 2nd exercise too without being domineering.

In the interview i answered all the questions with good examples of teamship and leadership. I also answered the more technical questions correctly and in depth.

I was please with the day and my performance. I also had gained a 2.1 in a relevant disciplin from a leading university.

So i thought my chances were good. Untill this morning when i read my emails. I failed phase 3 somewhere.

Im obviously very dissappointed. Its clear CTC are a good organisation and the current CTC'ers were decent & i always got along well with all of them.

Now I have to look elsewhere. Good luck to everyone else.

Im just completly lost as to where I fell short.
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Old 18th October 2007, 19:51   #1014 (permalink)
 
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Following what De-fault said I wondered if there is any of the early CTCer's reading this who could give an idea of what life is like on an Easyjet/Thomas Cook etc. FO salary with a 60k loan looming over them??

I'm just about to finish uni and will not let financial issues stop me from flying, so will apply to CTC. The only thing that worries me is five years down the line what's the quality of life like?? And I know it's a long way off for me but like families and mortgage and stuff? anyone any experience (preferably encouraging!!) they could share?

Thanks,
Rob
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Old 18th October 2007, 20:20   #1015 (permalink)
 
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Stage 3 and 4

Marvin, I was there with you! Which group were you in? I am really sorry to hear that you didnt get it because when we were talking in the crew room it sounded like we all did really well! AdamLT, if anything mate,convey to them that your a team player and a leader and know everything about the job your going for,best advice i can possibly give you because every interview is different depending on your on life experience so far.
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Old 18th October 2007, 21:53   #1016 (permalink)
 
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you get through then geetea?
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Old 18th October 2007, 23:49   #1017 (permalink)
 
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Relief

Thankfully yeah, just one of those situations where you dont know how you got on until they tell you how you get on! You can only speculate on your weaknesses and strengths, do they give you feedback because im under the impression they dont even though you have forked out 170 quid for the privilage.For the record i was Graham in the blue group

GT
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Old 20th October 2007, 15:18   #1018 (permalink)
 
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Having failed phase 3 myself I know first hand they do provide feedback to those invited to reapply, I don't know about what happens when they don't re-invite you but if you drop Mary Brown an Email asking her to help you improve yourself by telling you what happened I don't think she'll ignore you.
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Old 20th October 2007, 15:20   #1019 (permalink)
 
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Barcelona, if you can get a better loan, maybe secured, with another bank then go for it but of you don't own any property it will be impossible to get that much money for flight training. As for the insurance, the advantage of Paul Jones is that they are in direct contact with HSBC and CTC so most of the paperwork gets sorted out easily.
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Old 20th October 2007, 17:32   #1020 (permalink)
 
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I'll be getting my insurance from PJIS for that very same reason Polorutz. Just need to sell my car as the insurances are not cheap!!!
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