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Does anyone on the course know if there are any additional costs?
Yes, I do. And no, there aren't. I'm on the course as we speak, reaching the end of the NZ phase.
You don't pay any VAT on the £69,000 because it is a 'bond' and not a 'fee'. The cost of the foundation course is including VAT - no hidden extras there, but it will vary by a few hundred pounds every time the £/$ exchange rate wobbles as the foundation phase is paid for in NZ dollars. Make sure you consider this when budgeting for NZ - it's really not cheap to live out here at the moment!
Thank you very much!! Is it true that if you want to fly more than the fixed 180 flight hours you can do it? I read this on the website: Reasonable costs of additional training at the discretion of the Head of Training (HoT). If you're not ready for the skills test you can do more hours without paying, is that right?
If you're not ready for the skills test you can do more hours without paying, is that right?
Nope, if you need to repeat a flight or two then (at least when I was in NZ) then that might be considered as a blip and won't be charged.
If you struggle and need to repeat syllabus flights then expect to be charged $$$$. I was fortunate and never had to repeat training flights but a few on my course did and ran up rather large bills which had to be cleared before moving on to the next stage of the training.
Other reasonable additional costs include transportation in NZ and the CAA licence issue fee as mentioned in earlier posts.
I tried to find out how much they charge for additional hours on the DA42 but I didn't find anything on their website. I think it's around 350 £/hour though. Are the examiners from CTC or they came from outside? For example at OAA all the examiners are based in Oxford, and one of my friend told me that this is very helpful because you don't have to wait for the skills test.
It may have changed since my time but there was a provision for you to repeat some lessons at certain stages of the course, but that could well have been done away with.
As for the examiners, in NZ all examiners are in house. In Bournemouth for CPL/IR they are based at the airfield, not far from CTC and aren't exclusively CTC examiners but there was never any long waits for a skills test. Again that was a while back.
future-pilot - you may find it difficult to get any extra time on the DA42 unless you need it on a remedial basis. If you need remedial lessons before your CPL test, there is some flexibility as far as I'm aware and you probably won't have to pay for any extra. However, instructor / aircraft availability and scheduling are probably the limiting factors here. Extra time on the DA42 won't be advertised on the website because you don't need it as far as CTC are concerned - the idea is to get you through your CPL in the minimum number of hours required, so that you can head back to the UK and get stuck straight into your IR training.
student88 - nobody was 'picked' to help out at the open day when i was at Nursling a few months back - it's a voluntary thing, I volunteered because I wanted to play on the simulators. There's definitely no incentive for us to make CTC out to be something it isn't. It's worth heading to the open day to see the facilities and talk to the cadets who are all either in ground school, or have just returned from NZ.
Mister-Proach, The problem is that if I don't pass the CPL or IR skills test I do have to re-take some flights and then pay the skills tests. That's not all, if I fail a skill test, after graduation it's very hard to find a job with an airline! This is what's bothering me in this moment, so I've to be sure about everything.
Thanks for all the useful information
Last edited by future-pilot; 21st Jun 2012 at 20:50.
There's a thing called winter hours protection where flexi crew are guaranteed a minimum of 35 hours pay in a month. It's split into two 3 month periods and at the end of each if you had a month where you didn't have 35 scheduled hours you get a top up payment. So it does cost them something to not fly them.