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I can confirm that a couple of guys out here that did their stage four in the 73, but mostly all in the King; You will be able to tell which it is by the location of the final stage (Nursling = 737/(320)?, Bournemouth = King Air). Nothing too serious involved, if you get to stage four you'd have to have a pretty bad day not to be joining us out here. Relax; fly like you would in any other lesson and listen to instructions. Good luck.
Could anybody please tell my the course structure in terms of how long each part of the course will take and where ie UK or NZ. I have read the threads but I couldn’t see the answer anywhere.
Before I post just wanna say that this thread is really informative and the guides you guys have given to the CTC process are priceless.
I have had my application form with CTC for around 1.5 years now:P I been really hesitant to submit it as one of the questions is:
''Do you hold a full UK driving License?''
If its not important, why would they ask? and besides in 99% sure you need one to potentially be an airline pilot (travelling from home to work etc). Well, i am about to start a 1 week intensive Pass course (at the cost of £750 cringe!).
I am 21 and i never got the chance to learn because i basically went straight from boarding school to University. During the dosser 1st year, i guess i should have done it.
Furthermore, I was just wondering what everyone else backgrounds are for getting through to Stage 2. cos from the nature of everyones posts, you all seem really intelligent, on the ball, and all nice chaps, so fo thos who dont get to phase 2, what must have been wrong? Im a little worried that i wont make is and an airline pilot (as wioth everyone else) is all i have ever wanted to be!
My Specs are as follows:
Male 21
BEng Aeronautical Engineering @ Loughborough Uni.
(finalist, due to graduate this summer)
A-Levels: Maths (A), Physics (A), DT (B)
AS-Level: geography (C)
GCSE: 8 (A-B), 1 (C - French - yuk)
obviously, qualifications dont make up for personality, but i was just wondering if i am on par with the rest of you?
My only empolyments were various barstaff @ bars/Clubs.
If its not important, why would they ask? and besides in 99% sure you need one to potentially be an airline pilot (travelling from home to work etc). Well, i am about to start a 1 week intensive Pass course (at the cost of £750 cringe!).
Least of your worries for now, it is certainly not a pre-requisite - It would be good to have though just so that you can drive in NZ otherwise you'll be dependant upon others to ship you to the airport and to town etc.
As for not being intelligent enough to pass phase 2, I wouldn't worry about it... the maths test is really simple and they even let you re-attempt it at phase 3 if you only just fail it (no, I didn't fail it before you ask ) - can't say fairer than that! The rest is just down to aptitude and I wouldn't really correlate that with intelligence. If you require a bib every time you eat and have a nasty habit of walking into lamposts then maybe you won't do so well, but I really wouldn't spend much time worrying about this phase. I'm not sure of specific pass rates but I think it's something around half get through...
Phase 3 is, in my opinion, the make or break phase and by far the most challenging - after that you're more or less a shoe in unless you insult the phase 4 instructor's mother/have the flying ability of a penguin.
Captain Spam Can - he is correct...
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Captain Spam, I wasn't speculating I was confirming, and if you get to stage 4 it won't be at Dibden, it will be Nursling or BOH.
Lovezzin, as my good man Rusty says, a driving licence is by no means a requirement, in fact I could name 3 people out here who will have a fATPL before being legally allowed to drive!
Ribena, I don't have the information to hand but I will try and find out for you as soon as I can.
You've got me beaten then... I can only think of two out here!
Still, point stands - it's certainly not something to hold off your application form for, they are after pilots not limosine drivers. If you have the wherewithall and the capability of attaining your fATPL, and getting through the course in general, I think it's more or less assumed you will be able to convince the DVLA's finest that you are capable of driving a car should the need arise due to basing upon employment etc. If not, I find bribery works a treat.
And yes... I hope I am successful too... otherwise that loan was a big mistake.
I just read your comment with interest - I too am an ex Naval Officer who applied for CTC but failed miserably at Satge 3!
I would be glad to offer any advice / assistance if you like.
Are you an ex aviator? I was chopped at 702 sadly and then left the mob.
You'll have loads of examples to give them on the application from when you did SMAC etc, so that will be fine.
Stage 2 was just like the aptitudes at OASC only about 10 times easier - no problem there then! I really had to brush up on my maths though, a waek point of mine.
Stage 3 I came a cropper. And this is where ex military people find it weird. It's all about team building / role play stuff but they don't want you to take charge of a situation. And they don't want you to be quiet either. It's all very fluffy - unfortunately the team I was with were quiet as a mouse and I ended up steering them through the excercise.
Phase 4 - well it's a sim check so you'll be fine!
Another ex Navy chap is out in NZ, he was chopped on 824 and is getting a bit frustrated with the whole course out there. He doesn't have a PPL so is having to go through all of the basics.
I've got a PPL and that's about it. I'm considering re-appplying to CTC (even though they said not to) but am also looking at other FTO's out there too.
Can anybody offer any experience of phase 3, I.E the sort of activites in the morning, iv read all through these threads and there is plenty of info on the Interview, hence im after more info on the first part of the day. Any more interview advice is welcome though.
Another ex Navy chap is out in NZ, he was chopped on 824 and is getting a bit frustrated with the whole course out there. He doesn't have a PPL so is having to go through all of the basics.
Would that be a certain Scottish chap?
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Stage 3 I came a cropper. And this is where ex military people find it weird. It's all about team building / role play stuff but they don't want you to take charge of a situation. And they don't want you to be quiet either. It's all very fluffy - unfortunately the team I was with were quiet as a mouse and I ended up steering them through the excercise.
Yeah it's a tricky one... It's not that they don't want to see you take charge of the situation, it's that they want to see that although you have the ability to lead they also want to see that you are not over-dominating and give everyone else the chance to have the lime light for a bit. So if you are a strong leader character (like most ex mil officers are) and are surrounded by the quiet retiring types during your group activities you have your work cut out for you for sure.
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As has been said a million times before it really doesn't help to get stressed out about the aptitudes.
The thing about aptitude is you either have it or you don't. It's like medical, there's nothing you can do about it! So the BEST thing to do is to forget practicing PILAPT and worrying about which way the bar moves and get a bloody good nights sleep and RELAX and ENJOY the tests! They are actually good fun!
As far as I am aware the tests are designed to measure improvement. So if you've spent 6 months practicing PILAPT and are an aptitude ninja, you're not really going to improve much on the day are you?
And in case you're wondering i've passed the military ones 3 times and the CTC ones too. And I didn't do any rehearsing other than revise my mental arithmetic.
Hope this helps you guys sitting aptitudes for the first time. Cheers.
) - can't say fairer than that! The rest is just down to aptitude and I wouldn't really correlate that with intelligence. If you require a bib every time you eat and have a nasty habit of walking into lamposts then maybe you won't do so well, but I really wouldn't spend much time worrying about this phase. I'm not sure of specific pass rates but I think it's something around half get through...
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