The CTC Wings (Cadets) Thread - Part 2.

[d41xcs]

you're about to spend roughly 65 grand on a training course, and instead of "doing" what CTC "suggest" (which is getting insurance from PJIS), numerous cadets seem to think that hunting around insurance companies so they can save 100 quid or so is a good use of time...

the requirements are very very specific. CTC have years and years of experience about what works, and what doesnt...so why do people feel the urge to ignore their advice?!

dont get me wrong - i love a bargain, but in this situation, is it worth taking the gamble? maybe i've missed a trick here, but i'd say its more important to just get all in prep done to the T, than risk getting your visa refused cos you thought you'd save (in the grand scheme of things) a few pennies.

please note - this is not me suggesting that cadets dont watch what they spend, and spend wisely at that...

[djfingerscrossed]

Spend????

I've no money left to spend on anything!!!!!

[poss]

Pfft tell me about it Dave. I'm so poor I make a bum look rich.
Saying that though my £400 for this month came through just today but got to spend it in moderation.
I've not heard of anyone getting the insurance anywhere cheaper and it covering everything that is required but please someone correct me if i'm wrong.

[Kerosine]

I'm still awaiting the info pack so maybe you can help with this; do we have to pay for our insurance outright or is it covered in some way by the loan? I pretty sure I now what the answer is but wanted to confirm with someone!

Thanks!

[d41xcs]

Paying for the insurance is seperate from the loan, as the insurance itself covers the loan (if that makes sense)...ie: they are not going to lend you money to cover a loan which they are issuing.

the logical order of things is (assuming you need the loan):

1) Medical (cos if you dont get it, you'll never be flying anyway!)
2) Loan
3) Insurance (cos it covers the loan, and is only worth getting if you can afford to go! It also means you have the correct cover to apply for....
4) Visa (cos you need to have paid your foundation course fee via your loan and you also need the right insurance).

I got my insurance the other week and it was £1112.

thats the long and short of it anyway...

[Kerosine]

Thansk for that Dx, I remember a time when a grand was a large sum of money, now it pales in comparison to the other 75K...

[xbilz]

I passed my phase2 and had phase 3 on the same day. However, CTC decided not to take my application further. But they have asked me to re-apply again stating that I was very close to their standards. They have asked me to re-apply in 6 months time... is it usual?? do I have to go through the whole process again or would it just be the interview?? has anyone been able to get it done earlier than 6 months waiting time?? 6 months is a lonnnnnnnnnnnnng time.

[CTFC]

X check your PM's

[djfingerscrossed]

Not to worry buddy lots of people on here have been mightily close to passing first time and then invited back AND been successful. You never know they might be looking for a sign of your commitment to the career. I know getting knocks are awful and demoralising but take pride and confidence in the fact that they are asking you to come back

[Jenny149]

Well just to make you feel a bit better I applied to CTC originally 2 years ago I also passed Stages 1 and 2, had the interview and was unsuccessful they told me I was close to their standards and to reapply in 2 Years time. I can tell you it was worth waiting cos I reapplied and had my phase 3 and 4 last month and I leave for NZ on CP66 in October.

[Wee Weasley Welshman]

There is a rapidly deepening pool of CTC cadets completing training.

Some will be tempted to escape their debts by means of personal bankruptcy. This will happen as soon as cadets cannot be placed with airlines that will pay a living wage post monthly loan repayments.

Once a few people go bankrupt (there isn't a judge in the insolvency court who would not allow it) and walk away from their HSBC loan then the whole question of funding will become a very red hot potato for HSBC.

These schemes were not designed to withstand a credit crunch and a massive airline recession. Be aware of the liabilities and scenarios attached to the promise of an airline career as marketed in the brochure.

WWW

[belongins]

WWW
Wise words indeed

[vini123456789]

I'll be at ctc on the 11th june, does any one know any one who has actually passed this scheme???

[djfingerscrossed]

WWW where are you getting your information from?

[poss]

There are options open to cadets in the holding pool, as Dave said they will have turned down offers and be awaiting an airline they would prefer such as EZY.

[djfingerscrossed]

Vini do you mean cadets like myself who have passed the assessments or people now working for airlines?
The CTC forum which you can access after passing the assessments has guys now working for airlines.

[iFabio2]

Ciao people

just booked phase 2 (maybe 3 ) on the 24th of june, anyone happening to be there?

fabio

[chelsce]

i gotta be careful cuz i know he reads this but I met this guy that started an online blog when I first started my CTC application over a year ago, he had just started our in NZ, so we chatted and we followed each others progress through the different stages and yesterday he flew his first passenger flight for EasyJet.

I got to meet him once at my phase 4 retake and am very proud and happy to have met him.

The CTC process worked perfectly for him, he worked hard and has acheived his goal, my turn next!

In my humble opinion there are always going to be speculation regarding jobs in most careers and I think even more so in a job where you are paying a small fortune to learn to actually do. But if this is what you wanna do then that is just something you're going to have to contend with. Don't get me wrong, I'm not saying be naive and think its all gonna be ok, just that you might have to fight for your dream.....who da thunk it?

[Kerosine]

Agreed Chelcse, getting into flying always requires a leap of faith (especially financially!). There will be good times and bad times to make this jump but as it stands we will not be looking for employment for another 16 months(ish) so hopefully the situation will not be worse.

[xbilz]

Thanks to all who replied. Does anyone know if you fail at phase 3 and called again, do you get to resit phase 2 again or will it just be an interview?