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Old 12th Apr 2013, 06:54   #3601 (permalink)
 
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we finished in 3 in october 7, we applied togheter on october 17
me and another guy were called on nov 28 for the assessment on january 9.
the other one was called last week.

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Old 12th Apr 2013, 19:16   #3602 (permalink)
 
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and when did this guy receive the first email from cae asking about his cv?
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Old 12th Apr 2013, 20:02   #3603 (permalink)
 
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a week before the call
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Old 13th Apr 2013, 20:53   #3604 (permalink)
 
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Anyone here who starts the TR on the 22nd of july ?
Me and another guy from my assessment day (march 20th) got offered a course in july, 1 more in august and 2 more in september
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Old 14th Apr 2013, 11:57   #3605 (permalink)
 
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Thumbs up Assessment?

Hey Guys,

Here's a question for anyone who has done he sim check this Year.I did mine a while back, but a friend of mine said that when He had the emergency He still had to fly the Aircraft and deal with the situation of a cabin fire.

When I had the same the simulator was frozen ,looks like He had a hard time!Anyone else had this?

P M me if you prefer.....

Cheers!

Jimmy.

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Old 14th Apr 2013, 13:48   #3606 (permalink)
 
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Although we were told to "expect a non-normal situation" in flight, we got none in the sim. Seems it differs a lot depending on the instructor and/or candidates. I'm sure our instructor did not forget about it, but was apparently convinced of our CRM in some other way.

I would argue that it's normal to continue flying the plane, the "only" thing you have to do is to talk to your PM. They don't expect novices to complete memory items or checklists. Neither will you be asked to do airwork or navigate while dealing with the cabin fire or similar !
If you read this thread, the common thing to do is your PIOSEE, FORDEC or whatever you've been taught in your MCC and advice ATC but you won't execute the diversion or emergency landing etc. It's all about CRM.

Cheers,
Bob
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Old 14th Apr 2013, 14:43   #3607 (permalink)
 
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please boblorentz could you tell me about your background because ive been rejected three times when my cv was received by ryr. Send a private if you prefer it thanks in advance
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Old 14th Apr 2013, 23:27   #3608 (permalink)
 
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the common thing to do is your PIOSEE, FORDEC or whatever you've been taught in your MCC
Never knew what FORDEC was until you German guys told me in the MCC very useful indeed!
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Old 15th Apr 2013, 15:08   #3609 (permalink)
 
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illuminat, check your pm.
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Old 16th Apr 2013, 08:59   #3610 (permalink)
 
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Well done to all you Chaps who have passed the Ryanair selection process. By all accounts it's not a giveaway so those who are selected must have talent.

I was talking to a young Chap the other week who also passed, and received his training start date, only then to turn them down! When I asked why on earth he would do that, he reeled off a few reasons that rather put it in perspective: He would sign a EUR 28k+ contract with a 3rd party training provider; there would be 2 company layers between himself and Ryanair; and of course the main problem; that there were absolutely no assurances of where he would be based and how much flying he would be doing - both critical issues when flying for Ryanair.

Speaking to another couple of guys afterwards, it transpires that there are a number of cadets who have gone through the training process, but who are hardly flying at all - so having the expense of living away from their homes, but not earning anything.

I have always had a certain respect for Ryanair. You joined the company and received good quality training on a very desirable jet. You then flew your backside off, got shafted financially of course, but got lots of good experience in a short period of time. You would probably get quite a quick command in the process.

In my view, if you take the experience out of the equation, it all becomes a very different animal. I have always despised pay to fly, but this could turn out to be pay to not fly...

Even if that were the case, hopefully it would not last for long what with Ryanair's massive recent order for new jets

So, I would be steeling myself for a possible period of very little earnings. I imagine that quite a proportion of you chaps come from wealthy families (and I don't knock that; we cannot choose what we are born into just as I also don't knock those 10-20% of pilots who are genuinely gifted) so it won't matter that much. But to some, it may matter a lot.

I have little personal knowledge of Ryanair so feel free to correct me and give me at least some optimism as to the way that my chosen profession, that I have enjoyed every minute of for well over 40 years, is going. I am from a completely different generation to you guys

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Old 16th Apr 2013, 09:10   #3611 (permalink)
 
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@Regulation

The amount of flying you do does depend on the base you are assigned to. However, I got lots of friends/ people I know working for Ryanair as cadets and I haven't heard of anyone that doesn't make at least 500-600 hrs a year. The majority is flying a lot (700-800hrs last year).
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Old 16th Apr 2013, 09:13   #3612 (permalink)
 
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Good news - thanks JP
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Old 16th Apr 2013, 09:16   #3613 (permalink)
 
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I was talking to a young Chap the other week who also passed, and received his training start date, only then to turn them down! When I asked why on earth he would do that, he reeled off a few reasons that rather put it in perspective: He would sign a EUR 28k+ contract with a 3rd party training provider; there would be 2 company layers between himself and Ryanair; and of course the main problem; that there were absolutely no assurances of where he would be based and how much flying he would be doing - both critical issues when flying for Ryanair.
All of his 'reasons' for not accepting the job are things any competent person would have discovered before paying to apply for the job.
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Old 16th Apr 2013, 09:43   #3614 (permalink)
 
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Possibly a valid point Depone

When you learn to operate an Aeroplane, they teach you some kind of decision making tool - eg DODAR, where the 'R' means review - and if necessary change the plan. It is never a crime to change your mind old son!

One day, I'm sure you will make an excellent pilot..

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Old 16th Apr 2013, 10:36   #3615 (permalink)
 
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One day, I'm sure you will make an excellent pilot..
Thank you for appearing to have confidence in me, however your sarcasm is misplaced. My piloting abilities are not in question. I have proven them on the line for a few years now.

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It is never a crime to change your mind old son!
Reviewing your decision is admirable - I speak as one who came to flying after a career change. And I also turned down CTC and their Easyjet hold pool.

However, your friend claims to have turned down Ryanair purely on the grounds of factors that he knew before applying.
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Possibly a valid point
? No, I think it is an entirely valid point.

Happy flying.

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Old 16th Apr 2013, 11:45   #3616 (permalink)
 
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One of the points that I was trying to pass on from information given to me - and which I think would have been understood by the majority of potential pilots reading this thread, is the possibility that the Ryanair you find having been checked out, may be somewhat different from the Ryanair you thought you knew when you applied. You may be flying far less hours and earning far less money than you originally thought.

Something you learn very quickly on the line is that if you make smart-alec clever-dick remarks you will be shot down very quickly.

Depone, your entirely gratuitous and unhelpful remark in post #3680 (adorned with the 'I must be very clever' head banging), fell into that category. You can give us your life history in justification if you want, but I'm afraid you will still be looked upon as a clever-dick know it all who must be a terrible bore on the flight deck
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Old 16th Apr 2013, 13:54   #3617 (permalink)
 
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Utter nonsense.

My comment is valid. The head-banging is a reflection of my frustration at your report of a pilot who evidently applied to Ryanair without doing any research about what was on offer.

And, unlike you, I am not being personally insulting.
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Old 16th Apr 2013, 17:52   #3618 (permalink)
 
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@plikee

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Never knew what FORDEC was until you German guys told me in the MCC very useful indeed!
I'm not German, but I don't feel offended at all

While we're at it, here's another brilliant one I got: when you haven't got any climbing performance , check your gifts !

G ear
I ce
F laps
T hrust (or power)
S peedbrake

Unfortunately, I didn't know it yet when I moved from the PA28 Archer to the Arrow (with CSP and RG), and surely I wondered why we didn't climb more than 150 ft/min on a hot summer day with the gear extended after T/O ...
Funny to remember those moments, though
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Old 16th Apr 2013, 19:06   #3619 (permalink)
 
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Assessment feedback

Anyone who was at Stanstead on March 12th please P M me.
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Old 17th Apr 2013, 10:57   #3620 (permalink)
 
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As a long time reader of the forums and in particular this thread now it is finally time to make my first post:

Anyone here that is going to the assessment on the 8th of May?
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