Interviews, jobs & sponsorshipDo ya feel lucky, Punk? Well do ya? If so, here's the place to swap the hot gen on who's sponsoring or employing, their selection criteria, and where those oh so elusive first jobs can be spotted in the wild. Watch out for the tumbleweeds...
Location: What some people consider part of Europe but clearly isn't.
Posts: 9
I noticed there may be new classes starting at Pegasus.
Please do yourself a favor and consider that it will take 6+ months to complete your first 200 hours with a high risk of having to leave the company without any warning or valid reason. This happened to several guys and it will happen again.
Looks like history is repeating itself year after year.
Many guys leaving to Ryan after 200 hrs or after their contracts by the way.
İm working at pegasus now and the flying is great. The lifestyle doesnt suit everyone and there could be a delay in course times, however there are not going to be as many people trainning all at once this time round. My advice is to contact the company direct and ask. Also there will be people who dont come up to scratch and therefore wont be invited to stay; İts a business not a charity for under achievers
Location: What some people consider part of Europe but clearly isn't.
Posts: 9
In order to balance the story a little bit, I do like to mention that indeed the flying can be pleasant although this will vary per flight as with any other company. I certainly had my share.
And,
If you don't mind the captains/crew are smoking heavily in the cockpit which happens about at least 50% of the time and if you don't mind staying out of the loop when the cpt. speaks Turkish (including briefings) with dispatch/crew/controllers which happens during every flight now and then. Then, go-ahead.
The one thing I don't like about this program is that they tell you that you will fly 90-100 hrs a month. They keep you off the roster as much as they can during your initial 200hrs, resulting in 1 flight every 1-2 weeks. If you can stay after 200 hrs, only then they will max you out.
And if you open your mouth, you will be one of the first to leave the company.
A business? It certainly is for Pegasus. A fair one?; No.
Just out of curiosity... what happens after the 200hrs? Are you either kept or kicked? Whats the deal with people moving on to ryan after the 200hrs? Was checking out the pgs website..no prices mentioned. Anybody shed some light on the cost of the TR plus line training?
Location: What some people consider part of Europe but clearly isn't.
Posts: 9
@ jstflyin; What happens after 200 hrs depents if you have a contract or not. But, even with a contract changes are you will be kicked out (even overnight).
There's no deal with Ryan. People who went there completely did this on their own but you will still need 100 hrs on type minimum.
TR+base+200 hrs €32500
Duration of the TR+ base training including paperwork etc roughly 2 months followed by approximately 6 months linetraining (200 hrs).
I have followed this thread since the beginning and found now the time to reply. It is indeed true that it took quite a long time to complete the initial 200 hours which was a hard time for everybody. What Mr. Not even Peanuts forgot to mention is that a couple of guys have been kicked out by Pegasus after their initial 200 hours because they did not achieved the required standards. I can understand the frustration and disbelieve if they tell you that you don't get a contract after 200 hours but as said before, Pegasus is an airline (with a flawless safety record BTW) and not a shelter for under achievers. Let me put things straight, we started initially with 30 people and few of them (I believe 7) did not perform according to Pegasus standards and therefore did not get a contract (which is normal I guess). The ones who where given a contract after the initial 200 hours are all very happy here and thankfull that Pegasus gave us the opportunity to start our careers. Many of them are now flying for different airlines in Europe. I have been safety pilot during a couple of guys line training and for the first time in my (young) career I have seen that a pilot licence does not automatically means that you are able to fly a fast jet. I have never regret my decision to start flying with Pegasus Airlines and I am sure that the different kind of operations you will experience here are one of the best experiences you will have in your career. I do not want to offend any of the pilots who did not make the required grade and wish them all the best in their future careers but I found this very important information for the ones who will come behind us. If you have the change of coming here and taking part in the program than I recommend it. A famous singer once said 'If you can make it here, you can make it anywhere' and this also counts for Pegasus Airlines. So, thank you for your attention and good luck with whatever decision you make. Hope to see you guys up there....
Location: What some people consider part of Europe but clearly isn't.
Posts: 9
It is certainly true that it had been stated in the contract that when one doesn't meet the standards, he/she has to leave the company.
However, even before the first person was kicked out, it was already determinded by the management that a certain amount of newbies had to leave. Logically, they took out some troublemakers first and perhaps some persons who -for whatever reasons- were 'underachieving'. Remember, all 30 persons had their employment contracts before starting training.
That having said, my greatest concern is that Pegasus management told/write the group that linetraining would take an x amount of time but in reality it took much, much longer. Resulting in monetary problems with a lot of the guys and most of all, loss of income for everyone. Imagine that your montly income would be around €2500,- and that your linetraining would take 4 months extra; that means a loss of income of €10.000,- Some guys grouped together and others wrote on their individual behalf a letter to PGS management to inquire about the duration of the linetraining. Pegasus systematically denied that there have been any promises or gentlemens agreement in the past regarding the duration of linetraining. For me this fact had been a serious breach of mutual thrust...But anyway, some nationalities where receiving funds from their homecountry so it didn't hurt that much.
Another issue that was not appreciated by a small group is that Pegasus changed the employment contracts. The interesting part was a salary increase but this only would take effect after the initial employment contract while the 'notice period' to leave the company was increased from 1 to 3 months. Now tell me, does this make sense? It is a well known fact that only a handfull of people are allowed to stay after the initial contract which ends at the 31st of october this year.
İts all very well complaining about the time it took for the initial hours, but you cant fly hours that arent there. there was a vast reduction in travellers to Turkey this year and as a result the number of flights was less; and once again İ must state Pegasus is a business. Presictions for trainning times are just that PREDİCTİONS! there will be a number of variables that will change in any period be it the time it takes the government to ıssue permits or trainnees taking 60, 80, or over 100 hours to get released. which in turn can put a backlog in the system. Finally to put this to bed read your contract there was nothing in there about times etc. İf you signed it you should have read it and at the end of the day delays included ıt was still in my opinion the best deal by far.
I have sent an email to pegasus for more information, I have read on the forum pilots have done 200h but now in the webpage there offer only TR and 100h, did they change it??
good afternoon everybody,I am not new in the forum but this is my first post.Replying to tali..yes they changed and not only the the hours for the line training but even the price that now is 30500€ plus 500€(uniform and manual).A friend of mine told me it was 28500€.Anyway does anybody know if the line check is included?.thanks in advance mate
I like how you talk about "achieving" and "under achievers". I would argue that anybody paying to work effectively labels himself an underachiever. If you have a lack of faith in your own skills or worth it may be an option to pay for an opportunity, otherwise why would you?? Is money going out of fashion??
I bet the majority of the posters here will likely post about unsatisfactory t & c later on.
I have an assesment within 12 days with Pegasus!
Any comments about the assesment day?
Do you get paid at all during the line training?
any more people in the same situation, or with feedback please contact me via PM or in this tthread. Thanks!
Ramon
They are starting assessment for their course to start Nov 6.
I was invited to take the tests late this month.
Info from Pegasus:
After the interview there is a SIM check (assessment) It's in Istanbul It's free and we pay for the transportation and 1 night at the hotel.
estimated times:
Nov 6 it starts with groundschool for 3 weeks SIM for 3 weeks Company conversion groundschool almost 2 weeks etc.
For line trn:
It differs. It's up to you and the season. If you are successful you finish it early. If it is the high season you may fly more and finish faster. It may be 2-3-4 months I can inform you that the costs involved in participating in our course are approximately as follows (cost may change at the time of training due to the rise in fuel costs):
Type Rating Training Course (Groundschool, Simulator, Base Training): 22,500 Euro First 100 hours line training: 8000 Euro Totals 30,500 Euro Any hours thereafter: 50 Euro per hour
I must remind you that there may be additional expenses up to 500 Euro for headsets, manuals and uniform
I´ve just receive an e-mail from Pegasus requiring me to confirm if I would attend the TR assesment ASAP.
Just I´m curious why so urgently because a month ago i was at the hold ing pool,Nr 271 .
What´s going on with them?
my economy big time.
Pegasus
.
Linear Mode
