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Old 3rd Oct 2012, 15:48   #1 (permalink)
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AVIENT under the microscope

Things can't be that good over in Liege.
Their one and only MD11F had a heavy landing in Dakar with a long AOG - Ended up with engine #2 being damaged.. followed by a ferry back to base for more mx ... Now I hear they've another engine related problem.. Who can tell me more???
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Old 4th Oct 2012, 12:16   #2 (permalink)
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Safety Oversight

Worrying thing is that this airline has no real safety oversight, and operates without such in European airspace.

The aircraft rarely if ever operate to Zimbabwe where the aircraft are registered. This begs the question how there can be any form of robust monitoring of saftey and operational standards by that state and its Civil Aviation when the aircraft and operational base are anywhere but Zimbabwe.

It's another accident waiting to happen.... IMHO
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Old 4th Oct 2012, 18:17   #3 (permalink)
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Who has a crash report of their accident in China?
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Old 4th Oct 2012, 19:59   #4 (permalink)
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They still got a few pages worth of publicity in Airliner World this month.
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Old 5th Oct 2012, 12:29   #5 (permalink)
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Avient AGAIN!?

Question 1. Just how do you manage to damage the #2 engine on an MD11 with a heavy landing without doing serious damage to the supporting structure under the engine?
Question 2. Where did they manage to find an engine if they owe (as rumoured) P&W something in the region of 1.5 mil?
Also rumoured they managed to damage the wing tip during the heavy landing.
Are they now down to just the one MD11, Has the 10 been laid up?
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Old 5th Oct 2012, 16:32   #6 (permalink)
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Avient AGAIN!?


Understand they tried to lease engine from P&W but unable to due to outstanding debt. Rumour is that they removed #2 engine, repaired it and re-installed. This was the reason for lengthy AOG in LGG.

DC10 is still operating as far as I know
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Old 7th Oct 2012, 23:59   #7 (permalink)
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Maybe nice to know that their MD-11 was intended to get an A-check at AMS two months ago but while she was on her way to AMS she diverted to LGG due to the fact that there was a chance she would be impounded due to outstanding debts......

I wonder where she got her needed maintenance afterwards......

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Old 9th Oct 2012, 00:13   #8 (permalink)
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Are the MD11 pilots primarily Americans from the former Gemini Air Cargo?
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Old 10th Oct 2012, 14:29   #9 (permalink)
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I am aware that they do have someone from G - Spot onboard, whether it stretches to more than that - I wouldn't know.
What a tall order making up such deficit with 2 aircraft, and keeping everybody happy - especially Amsterdam, but I'd expect them to do mx themselves at their base in Leige, or is this not the case??? So, where is their DC10-30F as that's has slipped off the radar? Are they seriously trucking around with one aircraft!!!
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Old 10th Oct 2012, 22:29   #10 (permalink)
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No, most are ex DC10-30F, home-grown Avient
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Old 11th Oct 2012, 19:37   #11 (permalink)
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Avient MD11 crew

The majority of Avient MD11 flight crew are american ex Gemini see October Airliner World article.
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Old 16th Oct 2012, 13:41   #12 (permalink)
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yes its amazing what a piece of advertising does to raise your profile, still it must be tough keeping going on just one MD-11, i expect they diverted from ams to lgg as the little man from SAFA was sitting there behind a container waiting to pounce, that MP payroll must be growing !!
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Old 26th Oct 2012, 14:47   #13 (permalink)
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Zimbabwe Safety Oversight

Interesting Article in UBM Aviation News.....

Air Zimbabwe prepares for return to international flights Air Zimbabwe is battling to meet safety standards by its deadline of 30 October so that it can resume international services soon after. The carrier has already taken delivery of two Airbus aircraft in preparation for its flights. These will be used to replace aged Boeing aircraft. Air Zimbabwe, which is a state carrier, suspended operations in January due to pilot strikes, poor finances and the threat of aircraft repossession. The carrier must now meet safety standards to avoid a ban from the International Air Transport Association (IATA) on operating international routes. It is currently flying only domestic services. The government has agreed to take on its debt of $100m.

With the National carrier struggling to meet the desired safety requirements to get back into the air, it's amazing that Avient can continue without any effective safety oversight
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Old 26th Oct 2012, 21:18   #14 (permalink)
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Where is this 'only one MD11' stuff coming from, the DC10-30F survivor is still operating as far as I understand?
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Old 29th Oct 2012, 02:21   #15 (permalink)
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Saw an Air Zimbabwe B767 in Singapore a couple of days ago, must be medical treatment or a shopping trip.
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Old 24th Dec 2012, 11:33   #16 (permalink)
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The inevitable is nigh

Avient have just published their 2011 accounts (3 months late) and their auditors state their doubts as to the truth of the numbers provided, and concern as to whether the business can continue, one can only imagine what the 2012 figures must be like. The end is inevitable - sad news for the brave crews who have stuck with it.
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Old 24th Dec 2012, 18:12   #17 (permalink)
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If the auditors believed anything that AS provided then I bet they are putting up stockings tonight and leaving out biscuits for Reindeer!
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Old 24th Dec 2012, 21:51   #18 (permalink)
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one was at manston the other week but lately a finair md11 has been flying in a couple of times could this be a sub charter ?
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Old 4th Jan 2013, 12:26   #19 (permalink)
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Is this Avient?


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I'm afraid so
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