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JW411 As far as I know Cairns fared much better than at first anticipated. The "eye" passed over the coast some way south of Cairns at Mission Beach - Cardwell area. Innisfail, Cardwell, Mission Beach all got pretty well pounded. Almost the entire banana crop has been destroyed and also much of the sugar cane. Have not heard of any aircraft being damaged in Cairns.
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I wonder if these are all Belfast engines and props or if it includes the engines and props that were removed from the CL-44 Guppy at Bournmouth by Heavylift?
I presume that a good part of the reason why Heavylift are seeling the Belfast is that they'll have lost the work they used to do for the Australian military since the C-17s arrived.
There is already a Belfast preserved at the RAF Museum, Cosford in the UK West Midlands. It is housed within the Cold War building.. Admission is free. They are holding another open cockpit evening (£10 tickets must be purchased in advance) in September 2011. The Belfast will be included.
As with many other one-off aircraft, the 'Belslow' has been the subject of much speculation but little real action. Sources close to the owners state that it was indeed purchased along with the CL44-O Guppy. Indeed, this is borne out to some extent by the appearance of former Belfast enginners at BOH who have hung No's 2,3 and 4 Tyne on. Several consortium names HAVE been mentioned, rumour-repeat rumour had it that the Belfast's deposit had not been paid in time and the deal was off. Meanwhile in deepest Hurn, a rumour of similar strength (with proof actually) shows that the aircraft is officially grounded and that one previous CofA authority refused to de register the old girl due to 'outstanding financial issues. All may become clearer this very weekend when a seminar of the world''s authorities on both types, convenes.
This aircraft looks like it is getting ready to fly. It has been moved over near to the fire station, the HeavyLift titles have been painted over and the engines have been run. The registration hasn't changed at this stage anyhow.
work at cairns ga gossip is aircraft is beyond repair owner of belfast flying tiger oversize cargo is desperately trying to find a buyer for aircraft as they have only a matter of weeks before it will get scrapped like the heavylift 727
Came across this thread when doing some research on the Belfast.
As I understand it, the reason the RAF only received ten of the original thirty aircraft originally ordered was that the US insisted that we buy C-130 as one of the conditions for monetary support during the 1965 Sterling crisis.
I'm not knocking C-130 - great aircraft and have spent many terrified hours in them waiting to jump out - but if we hadn't been obliged to buy them, what were the RAF planning on using as a para-dropping aircraft? The Belfast has no side doors and the rear door cannot be opened in flight - so unsuitably. So what was the RAF plan at the time?
HS681 VTOL 4 engined jet was cancelled and replaced with C130 with UK content. So assuming that it was para capable as replacing beverley/hastings ? anyone know more ?
The history doesn't back the C-130 theory, I'm afraid. As bvcu says, the RAF's C-130s were ordered in 1965, once the HS681 project was cancelled. The Belfast order for 10 aircraft was placed in 1960 and, of course, there was no airdrop requirement as part of that. Lots of this was covered in a Belfast thread in History/Nostalgia earlier this year.
For research on the Belfast, I could recommend C.H.Barnes' "Shorts Aircraft since 1900" which covers development and eventual disappointment at lack of commercial sales at some length.
Short Belfast for sale
