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Old 22nd July 2010, 18:24   #1 (permalink)
 
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Fedex 757 CDG base

I see the first 757 came across to CDG the other day - any idea which route they'll be using it on?
Presume its to upgrade an ATR route leading to shuffles in the feeders?
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Old 22nd July 2010, 19:42   #2 (permalink)
 
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Replacing A-310's on certain routes. No crew base in Europe at this time. All crews D/H to and from Europe.
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Old 22nd July 2010, 22:03   #3 (permalink)
 
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The first 757 will cover the CDG-BCN route. Later VIE and BUD. They will be arriving one a month from the US. The 757's will replace the A310's in the EMEA region, so non-long haul trunk flights will be a 757/A300-600 mix
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Old 26th July 2010, 11:15   #4 (permalink)
 
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And these intra European flights will be crewed by... you guessed it Americans!
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Old 26th July 2010, 12:49   #5 (permalink)
 
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European jobs for JAA-licenced pilots!
Sorry, but FAA Yankees,go home...
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Old 26th July 2010, 19:37   #6 (permalink)
 
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Yawn yawn. I suppose an equipment change has given the opportunity to drag this up again The original question was what routes the aircraft were going to be used on, so lets just stick to it
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Old 26th July 2010, 21:54   #7 (permalink)
 
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And these intra European flights will be crewed by... you guessed it Americans!
Of course they will be crewed by Americans...FedEx is an American company.
Gee, what a surprise.
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Old 26th July 2010, 22:22   #8 (permalink)
 
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And Anheuser Bush Inbev is mainly Belgian/ Brazilian owned, does that mean they should employ mainly Belgians and Brazilians in their US breweries/factories/theme-parks?
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Old 26th July 2010, 23:35   #9 (permalink)
 
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...does that mean they should employ mainly Belgians and Brazilians...
Not unless they have the proper visas....which is quite unlikely.
By not basing, but rotating, FedEx can get away with it.
Eurolanders will just have to lump it.
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Old 27th July 2010, 00:04   #10 (permalink)
 
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By not basing, but rotating, FedEx can get away with it.
Eurolanders will just have to lump it.
The French taxman may not see it the same way, as Easyjet found out, and they weren't even trying it on as hard as FedEx will be. If the same American faces show up in CDG as often as if they are regular crew there, the taxman may come and say hello, and it's downhill from there on in...
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Old 27th July 2010, 01:06   #11 (permalink)
 
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the taxman may come and say hello, and it's downhill from there on in...
Maybe.
However, I believe FedEx has a foreign tax equilization sceme, whereby the compajny picks up any excess foreign tax liability for their US employees.
Many American companies have this arrangement, and I have worked for several...mostly corporate flying, whilst based overseas.
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Old 27th July 2010, 11:43   #12 (permalink)
 
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Of course they will be crewed by Americans...FedEx is an American company.
Gee, what a surprise.
And all DHL pilots should be german since the time that DP took over DHL???

And all Cargolux and Luxair planes should be crewed by luxembourgians??
I Wonder if they have enough pilots in Luxembourg...

And all the employees of FedEx worldwide (groundhandlers, vandrivers, post sorters, office personell, cleaners, etc etc etc) should be Americans?

And all the employees in the Vatican should be Vatican?

And all the little children in Bangladesh sowing Nike shoes for 20 cents a day should be American little children?
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Old 27th July 2010, 12:25   #13 (permalink)
 
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The bargaining authority the USA employed in the past with respect to aviation bilaterals is gone , as is the bully tactics and double standards aimed at levelling the playing field in their direction.
Time for Europe to grow to bollocks and reassert its authority. Paris based N- registered 757`s should be F - registered with all appropriate taxes paid , and employment law adhered too.
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Old 27th July 2010, 12:50   #14 (permalink)
 
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Time for Europe to grow to bollocks and reassert its authority. Paris based N- registered 757`s should be F - registered with all appropriate taxes paid , and employment law adhered too.
Hardly likely, unless FedEx leased the aeroplanes to a French company. Don't hold your breath.
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Old 27th July 2010, 21:40   #15 (permalink)
 
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US only crew on FX?

OK, I'll bite.

It just seems to me that sending crews D/H from US to FR to operate the 757 doesn't present the best value-for-money. Why insist on US crews only? Can't be the N-reg or a corporation tax benefit so must be an internal decision, in which case is it top down (mgmt) or bottom up (crew)?

I hope it's not because "we've always done it that way" and there's a sound economic argument for it...



Flightmech - I'm not having a go, just genuinely curious.
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Old 27th July 2010, 23:27   #16 (permalink)

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Hmmmm

Used to fly British-registered a/c for Fedex from CDG to MAD in the 90's. Brit crews, paid in UK, taxed in UK. What difference with the Yanks? (Please don't say Europe)
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Old 28th July 2010, 00:39   #17 (permalink)
 
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People this is not rocket science. The Fedex pilots obviously has a strong union looking out for its members.
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Old 29th July 2010, 00:17   #18 (permalink)
 
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From what i can remember all feeder routes within Europe are operated by the likes of ACL/West Air Swedan,when fedex wanted to introduce a bigger acft into the feeder network they needed to get approval from their pilots.
Also how come the likes of UPS still use European reg acft&crew rather than go the Fedex route and use N-Reg acft&crew?.
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Old 6th August 2010, 08:40   #19 (permalink)
 
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gents,
do you know if these European flights will be dispatched from the U.S or if FX has an ops center in europe?
tks
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Old 6th August 2010, 16:26   #20 (permalink)
 
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FedEx does have GOCC (Global Operations Control Centre) in CDG, but all FDX flight releases come from the GOCC bunker in MEM
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