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Freight Dogs Finally a forum for those midnight prowler types who utilise the unglamorous parts of airports that many of us never get to see. Freight Dogs is for pilots and crew who operate mostly without SLF.


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Old 1st November 2009, 12:23   #81 (permalink)
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@EAM who is 'Robby' ?
Why do you want to know? Did I mean you.......!?
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Old 1st November 2009, 14:59   #82 (permalink)
 
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Have to agree with L1100-500. On the other hand, "All the companies I worked for before are STILL in business. I worked for exec, low cost, legacy; in Germany and as an expat. I made my experience." sounds swaggering, diction and style awake memories of a fly737ng guy from another forum. Calming down will help. A shut mouth catches no flies.

Small is beautiful. Hearing that an employee is happy is not bad either – compared to all the other stories we hear. Having options = companies – around never is a bad thing, especially if the labour market is as tight and regulated as the german one.
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Old 1st November 2009, 20:57   #83 (permalink)
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So isses.
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Old 6th November 2009, 05:43   #84 (permalink)
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LH747 retierement CPTs will be a never ending line....these guys know each ohter very well....

To be promoted is very important. At the moment it doesn't make any sense to speculate when will be your upgrade....

I hope ACG is doing well in future, anything else we will see in two months when the Christmas run is over and the Asian business will be slowing down again.

However ACG is still in business instead of other competitors, which are still parking airplanes in the high season
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Old 6th November 2009, 09:42   #85 (permalink)
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However ACG is still in business instead of other competitors
Well, still in business.....its in business for the last 3-4 month, a startup should survive at least more than a year, so nothing special about this.
But a startup in cargo business usualy offers prices which hardly cover the costs of the flight, just to start the network. So even if you have 100t on that 744, it does not even mean that the flight is paid. Everything under 100t you are loosing money.
On US routes you dont make any profit at all.
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Old 6th November 2009, 09:58   #86 (permalink)
 
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However ACG is still in business instead of other competitors, which are still parking airplanes in the high season
...and, as EAM said, that should be a strong indication of their chances of survival with 744 BCF's in a very tough market...
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Old 6th November 2009, 11:14   #87 (permalink)
 
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To get customers, you have basically three options :

- Offer a service that nobody else offers (obviously not the case here as ACG is not the only operator to offer maindeck capacity between the Far East and Europe).
- Underbid the market prices (possibly the case here but nobody knows the rates they offer).
- Have a very good salesman with some loyal customers that trust him and the service he is able to offer (also possibly the case here). So for the same rate as the legacy rate, the customer will choose you instead of KE, OZ, SQ or CV.

It is sad to say but the salesman is the most important person in the company.

To EAM, you can make profit under 100t payload (although not easily). You just have to choose carefully the routes you fly. Fly an AOG engine or some urgent drilling equipment to Luanda or Lagos and you gonna make profit with 20t payload on a 747F. Flexibility is also a key. Profit can come from how desperate the customer is to fly his freight.
You can also make profit on some US routes if you have the good customer. Fly for the US military and you'll still be able to make profit flying a crap -100F or -200F from the US across the world :-)

That said, I think it is too early to tell if they gonna go bust or not. Time will tell.
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