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Old 18th August 2008, 12:17   #1 (permalink)
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Cool Air Contractors Atr

Hi all can anyone out there working with Contractors tell me how the roster works out for irish based crews. I believe its 2 on 1 off 1 contactable - Are crews been called out much on the week contactable and what distance must you be living from DUB/SNN. Looks like there is not much turn over there, so what is keeping crews so content.Many Thanks GGA

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Old 18th August 2008, 14:41   #2 (permalink)
 
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Hi, you are correct; its 2 weeks working, week contactable and a week off. At the moment Captains are being used on their contactables more than FO's. Someone said that there are a too many FO's at the moment, but maybe there are some promotions around the corner.

You can live as far away from your base as you want, its up to you to travel there at your own expense to position where they want you.

The reason crew are not moving on is people are afraid of moving onto a pax airline and being let go due to oil prices, recession, etc. Also ACL are very busy and have new routes coming up, also they are looking for 2 ATR French speaking pilots to fly the 737 on a 18month EAP contract. Everyone seems very happy at the moment.

Have you got a job or just thinking of applying.
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Old 18th August 2008, 17:32   #3 (permalink)
 
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Thanks very much hardcase. Also heard that some crews fly home for their 2 days off down route. Is this allowed ? Also do you have any idea of capt takehome pay in ireland incl all allowances.

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Old 18th August 2008, 17:54   #4 (permalink)
 
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yes, you can travel home on your middle weekend off, i do. Its best to let the company know tho, just in case they have plans to move the a/c for maintenence,etc...

as for the salary, depends on whether you get paid in euros or pounds and which contract you are on...

have you thinking of applying??
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Old 18th August 2008, 18:11   #5 (permalink)
 
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Thanks again. Yes thinking of applying would be looking to be based in Ireland on a euro Salary. When you say differnet contracts what do you mean ?
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Old 19th August 2008, 15:38   #6 (permalink)
 
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What about french speakers with B737TR, any opportunities ?

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Old 19th August 2008, 15:52   #7 (permalink)
 
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When I worked there, we had one Portugese Captain who flew in from Lisbon to Dublin or East Midlands for his duty period.
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Old 19th August 2008, 16:57   #8 (permalink)
 
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only if you have 18months service with ACL, the position is a secondment to EAP from ACL

greenergrassairlines; You are either on a ACL contract or contracted to work for us from the company AIR
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Old 19th August 2008, 18:16   #9 (permalink)
 
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I see , so is there much difference in the contracts. I taught AIR did all the recruitment for Air Contractors ?
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Old 19th August 2008, 18:33   #10 (permalink)
 
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no, there are ATR pilots who work directly for ACL, usually they are based in the UK although some UK guys are AIR. The contract pilots, employed via AIR, are based elsewhere in Europe, ie France, Ireland, Holland, etc...

AIR contracted pilots are technically self employed, therefore have to sort out their own taxes, pension, etc...
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Old 20th August 2008, 00:06   #11 (permalink)
 
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If the post on the Manchester thread is correct - then the GLA-MAN-CDG ATR72 will presumably route direct to CDG. Is there any chance this will be routed through NCL to replace the current aircraft (currently Be1900 with Farnair - soon to be Swiftair ATR42) therefore saving 1 a/c?
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Old 20th August 2008, 08:12   #12 (permalink)
 
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FDX feeder will operate MAN-CDG-MAN from Sept 15th..using ATR72

Also feeder will operate MAN-STN-BHX-CDG-BHX-MAN from Sept 1st..again using ATR72
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Old 20th August 2008, 10:50   #13 (permalink)
 
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Hardcase beat me to it! First I had to make sense of the revised MAN/BHX route schedule. What a cool job we have, eh?

Menikos - regarding EAP, there is still external recruitment for fluent French-speaking 737-rated applicants, but last I heard it was still for fixed-term 8 months contracts (CDD). Check this out: http://www.europeairpost.com/data/of..._technique.pdf

Bonne chance quand meme!
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Old 20th August 2008, 11:22   #14 (permalink)
 
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hi FM, you busy these days
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Old 20th August 2008, 13:15   #15 (permalink)
 
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Cheers Hardcase for the info! That second one looks like a strange route! Is that as well as the existing Birmingham one? Also what happens to Glasgow - are they left with only the shared Newcastle feeder?
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Old 20th August 2008, 13:59   #16 (permalink)
 
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i think that it is slight adjustment to the existing BHX route; as for GLA i think it will be just be one aircraft via Newcastle.

as far as i know, ACL are pulling out of GLA, unless something changes, which regularily happens in this business
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Old 21st August 2008, 19:48   #17 (permalink)
 
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Hardcase do ypu have any italian base?

any chanche of employment without TR on Atr?

Any chanche of self sponsored course on Atr?
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Old 21st August 2008, 20:01   #18 (permalink)
 
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an Italian base is possible i suppose, we do fly from Ancona, Pisa and Rome. You must have an ATR rating to join, time on type is helpful, ACL do not have any type rating courses for the ATR....
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Old 24th August 2008, 12:50   #19 (permalink)
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"as far as i know, ACL are pulling out of GLA, unless something changes, which regularily happens in this business"

GLA-STN-DUB-GLA is still continuing for the forseeable future and line maint will be carrired out for Swiftair's 42 by ACL.

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Old 5th September 2008, 01:41   #20 (permalink)
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ACL are a good company to work for. An open culture between management and crew reinforces a positive attitude towards work. Great bunch of guys and girls to fly with and market leading T&Cs. People are happy and thats why no one is leaving.

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