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Freight Dogs Finally a forum for those midnight prowler types who utilise the unglamorous parts of airports that many of us never get to see. Freight Dogs is for pilots and crew who operate mostly without SLF.


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Old 29th October 2008, 20:18   #81 (permalink)
 
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for the pictures of the tail strike The Aviation Herald
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Old 29th October 2008, 23:33   #82 (permalink)
 
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Correct registration is OO-CBA.
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Old 30th October 2008, 18:20   #83 (permalink)
 
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BelArgUSA,

You mentioned you were born in Belgium and it looks like you don`t think high of Belgian Aviation, Politics etc.... Well, I was born in Belgium as well and I still live there and yes, Politics are still the same (if not much worse) and yes aviation is still the same (if not worse). Fact is, trying to get out and find better places (To live and fly) is not that simple for the moment. I guess all of this must be much better in the South West somewhere. Any ideas how to get there in that paradise?


Mafea
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Old 30th October 2008, 19:20   #84 (permalink)
 
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Mijn platte land...!
Love the people and the food...
Always like to visit back and enjoy a few beers -
And the rain and wind.
And the train, tram, metro or bus strikes.
Or the language wars...
xxx
I spent 6 month flying OO-SJP on ACMI to Sabena/Sobelair in 1977.
That educated me about Belgian style airline management and CAA...
Had many pilot friends with Sabena, all retired now.
My turn to retire 30 NOV... And glad I can forget airplanes...
xxx

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Old 30th October 2008, 19:55   #85 (permalink)
 
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30 NOV .... No more Airplanes he.. Congratulations with your retirement after x-time airborne!!

As far as Cargo B, no news from the Belgian Papers yet... After the tailstrike, who knows whats next.....
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Old 25th November 2008, 19:12   #86 (permalink)
 
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Here is a photo of the B744F on the line at Paine Field:
OO-CBC Cargo B Airlines

What happened to OO-CBA? Still grounded or has it been repaired by now.
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Old 25th November 2008, 20:22   #87 (permalink)
 
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What's up with the name on OO CBC, " NCA Artemis "?
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Old 25th November 2008, 22:15   #88 (permalink)
 
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What's up with the name on OO CBC, " NCA Artemis "?

Is Artemis Belgian for leased or owned? The aircraft was built for NCA but dry-leased to Cargo B.
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Old 25th November 2008, 23:44   #89 (permalink)
 
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NCA Artemis
Artemis is the name of the aircraft.
Greek goddess of hunting, assimilated to Diane in Roman deities.
Each NCA plane has a Greek goddess name...
A few weeks ago, I saw a NCA 747F named Andromeda taxiing by...
The Cargo B airplane is leased from NCA, but keeps its name.
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Old 27th November 2008, 22:24   #90 (permalink)
 
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Have been told by a cargo b guy that the crew on the tailstrike miscalculated the weight by 200k lbs hence the wrong t/o speeds. Both pilots where fresh on type.
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Old 28th November 2008, 10:31   #91 (permalink)
 
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Ouch!

If true, they're VERY lucky to have got away with it:
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Old 28th November 2008, 17:12   #92 (permalink)
 
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It's getting even better. Crews will not be paid for Nov.,Dec and their holidays.
The tailstrike pilots are being fined - they will be trained on the new 744erf
arriving soon. This info is coming from a belgium guy who works there.
Some always land on their feet, I'd say.
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Old 28th November 2008, 17:25   #93 (permalink)
 
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Not completely correct info. During the year the crews got paid their gross salary; now it's the taxman who wants his share. Of course that takes the smile of the face of those guys who spent everything
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Old 28th November 2008, 21:17   #94 (permalink)
 
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'Fined or fired?'
The taxman in Belgium?! OUCHHHHH
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Old 30th November 2008, 12:13   #95 (permalink)
 
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No per diems at CargoB
Heard rumours that no one has received per diems going back to october 08 at cargob, anyone else heard this one? Looking more and more like an airline in financial difficulties?
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Old 1st December 2008, 20:25   #96 (permalink)
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Well rumours as well... per diem of october were payed today...

By the way, if interrested to see another nice picture of the OO-CBC freshly painted in Seatle:
http://paineairport.com/images/kpae4396.jpg
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Old 3rd December 2008, 17:31   #97 (permalink)
 
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Unpaid Per Diem at Cargo B
....heard per diems were paid today too....better late than never? Appears they survive another month!
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Old 5th December 2008, 11:33   #98 (permalink)
 
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Cargo B contract
Can anybody confirm if Cargo B is paying their crews through a luxemburg based daughter company?
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Old 5th December 2008, 13:37   #99 (permalink)
 
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a captain friend of mine with the company mentioned that cargo b pilots are paid by a holding company in luxemborg and are subject to luxemborg taxes (as low as 12% for some guys with wives, kids etc..) which is very curious when most of them live and fly out of brussels? Not sure how the belgium tax people feel about this? Nice deal if you can get it?
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Old 5th December 2008, 17:02   #100 (permalink)
 
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Nippon Cargo Airlines is to take a 15 per cent stake in Cargo B for around 3 million Euros and the other major stake holders are pumping in another 4 million Euros.
NCA and Cargo B will also operate interline agreements on Asian and South ASmerican routes.
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