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Can you explane a bit more "those thinks"? According with contract LH Technic is responsible for technical condition ("bad technical condition"). So, you knew, during preflight check I cant calculate all nuts, but if I dont want take the plane (due to difficulties, high oil prices, no markets, etc), I will find a lot of reason reject the plane. In this case "bad technical condition"- most winning version, especially as the plane 20 years old.
Believe me my friend when our second aircraft came from russia it took a lot of maintenance and a lot of sudden problems comming up in flight..... which where odd ,that took time to repair now after a couple of months its up to standards, after inspection the third aircraft was even in a worse condition than the second so management rejected it. Now they are looking for a 3th aircraft urgently because the market is there and trafficload is high. btw it is not because an aircaft is 20 years old it should be in bad condition.
I cant believe an aircraft rejection had nothing to do with the airframe or engines not living up to the agreed return from lease contract. Still can be rectified. The party returning the aircraft will have a period of time to correct the outstanding items and then redeliver the aircraft.
No reason after that to not accept the aircraft unless the managment screwed up and did not include a clause stipulating minimum cycles remaining on each engine at return..........
i dont think you will find many 20 year old classics (mostly 25 yrs old or more )- except possibly -300's the 400f is already 15 years in service..and starting to show its age with maintenance costs due hi utilisation
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It was already rejected for a second time (ot third even). maintenance cost is high on these birds your correct but if you maintain them well they should fly no probs. I am not allowed to tell you the tech status they where in when we got them but Now they are flying well , with almost no probs. (well he's in D check now)
Anyways, BIB is not coming to Cargo B so enough said on that one.
Last edited by belgianconnection : 8th July 2008 at 13:19.
So, Belgianconnection, "they" has become "we", therefore as an employee you will know the real truth behind the rumours? In view of the current market conditions, even established MD11 and 747-400 operators are struggling to keep going. With just 1 -200 flying in the low season when revenues are traditionally at their lowest for European-based freighter operators, I will be intrigued to know your recipe for survival/success?
Good point charterman, and I must say I don't know. WE just hope for the best, and hopefully management takes good decisions. I can only say all flights we do at the moment are full loads, for specific details or how much money they make or not make you'll need to go to the top. For the moment I am enjoying the beast of the skies, enjoy the routes and flying with FE's. I would not want to see a fun outfit like this dissapear......, I know we all work hard and try to make something of it in this harsh world .
Sad to say, but full of freight does not mean that the flights are making money. There are lots of operators of both freighters and passenger aircraft in the world at the moment who are flying flat out full, but losing money. Unfortunately airline managers either choose to ignore this fact or hope that there are better times around the corner. Scottie from Star Trek famously said "ye canna change the laws of physics" I say " ye canna change the laws of economics"
Dragonair are retiring a classic 743SF tomorrow in good condition!
Might be possible (as to 'condition') however, I am reminded of the time long ago when I was retained by DHL (circa 1980, and by the 'D' himself in DHL, Adrian Delsay) as to the 'condition' of some B707 freighters that were being considered, purchased from CX. Not only were these aircraft advertised as -300C advanced (which they were definitely not) but they were full of corrosion in the keel beam/belly area. Adrian passed on the airplanes...and with good reason. Anything from HKG is subject to being highly suspect....big time.
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