Fogrunner

3 FEs terminated, 24 furloughed

43 MD11 FOs terminated
14 DC10 FOs terminated

L-38

Fogrunner

Operating 4 MDs and 1.5 DC10s. Tell me this, how can you operate half an aeroplane?

Fogrunner

Today, Gemini filed for protection under Chapter 11 of the US Bankruptcy Code.

layinlow

How much longer is this going to last? I wrote a warning a while back. I knew this was coming. I had seen this before, twice! Up like a rocket, down like a rock, and then repeat. Evergreen, Kalitta, Polar, and Atlas, be forewarned! Management is NOT your friend and any downturn is their ticket to bust the unions. At the first sniff of downturn.....ta-ta. Then comes the reorganization, with lower pay and an even lower quality of life!!

Heilhaavir

That's really great Dr.T, and I'm sure you were the only one who "saw that coming" or "wrote a warning a while back" or again "had seen it before".

How about educating everybody and giving them a solution to fix the problem?

layinlow <<How much longer is this going to last? I wrote a warning a while back. I knew this was coming. I had seen this before, twice!>>

layinlow

Therein lies the problem. There is no easy fix. I am just glad I did what I did before the train wreck. I will tell you this though. There are a lot of guys who will be fighting amongst themselves and when they get the furlough notice will blame the other guy. Its like fiddling while Rome burns and Nero laughs to the bank.

Heilhaavir

I see, you mean there will be more "I told you so"s?

layinlow <<There are a lot of guys who will be fighting amongst themselves and when they get the furlough notice will blame the other guy.>>

flite idol

" How much longer is this going to last? I wrote a warning a while back. I knew this was coming. I had seen this before, twice! Up like a rocket, down like a rock, and then repeat. Evergreen, Kalitta, Polar, and Atlas, be forewarned! Management is NOT your friend and any downturn is their ticket to bust the unions. At the first sniff of downturn.....ta-ta. Then comes the reorganization, with lower pay and an even lower quality of life!!"

Sanctimouious pr1ck

All the best to the Gemini folks........anyone of us could be in your position......soon!

mutt

And based in Saudi Arabia ....???

Mutt

Fogrunner

doubt it.. the Saudia contract ends mid-July

Fogrunner

looks like Aug 11th they will auction Gemini off!!!!!

http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/news?p...WZBE&refer=law

anyone know of any good jobs out there for a TRI f/o, and current (for now) on the MD???? I applied at Etihad for the 77 but they said I had not been shortlisted....I filled out the 8 page QR app but have heard nothing. I applied at EK last year and interviewed, after 4 weeks they said I was not successful...

cadidalhopper

You were shot down by EK?? God help you.

Fogrunner

yea thanks I needed that....

Sleeping Freight Dog

Fogrunner,
Sorry to hear about this. You might follow the aircraft.
Strong hunch they get picked up by Fedex or UPS, you
might want to apply with them.

Fogrunner

Thanks SFD. UPS app window is closed, FedEx have not interviewed in probably two years. A friend of mine at FedEx told me they are not expecting new-hires for at least another two-three years. All the over 60 guys coming back from the panel to the front seats.

layinlow

Fed Ex will be parking the 10's in the near future.

blackbaron

I thought FedEx had converted all their DC's to MD's except a handful only to scrap? doesn't seem plausible. Good luck Gemini Aviators

layinlow

There are still some tens in the air. And they will not be scrapped as far I know, more like parked.
fyi, the first of the 757's will be up and running soon

stilton

Fogrunner,

Netjets is hiring, friend of mine (61 years old ex Airline) just started, excellent terms and conditions, a rock solid. well run company.

Smaller jet, but the checks are good, best of luck.