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Freight Dogs Finally a forum for those midnight prowler types who utilise the unglamorous parts of airports that many of us never get to see. Freight Dogs is for pilots and crew who operate mostly without SLF.


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Old 26th June 2009, 04:09   #281 (permalink)
 
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Yes, you're right - the 1800m figure was the First Officer operating limit and perhaps coincidentally close to the minimum LDA required.

However, I still remember IOM was out of bounds for the B737. If they have operated out of Ronaldsway maybe it was at a reduced TOW? I wouldn't like to comment whether the limitation was an operational one or simply due to economics.

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Old 26th June 2009, 18:24   #282 (permalink)
 
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HS 748 Last Journey.

Well it's been some time since I've been on these pages, but after flying these and this particular aircraft for many years. It is a sad sight to see this aircraft ending up this way. What a waste. Surely a museum would be more of a fitting end to preserve this, a British Aircraft. Perhaps airfields like Cosford ( albeit they have an Andover there already), Coventry where it flew into, Duxford to name a few.

It would have been nice to see the HS748 flying again. Maybe one day it will whether it's in the UK or elsewhere.
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Old 27th June 2009, 00:12   #283 (permalink)
 
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G-BEJD which is currently parked near the the 28 end of the main runway
at Blackpool is to be transferred to the Millom museum.

RAF Millom Aviation & Military Museum Update - Page 8 - Key Publishing Ltd Aviation Forums

I think G-SOEI has engines fitted, so is the only one with any
chance of flying out. The hangar needs to be cleared out very
shortly in preparation for new owners, Disley Aviation, moving in.
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Old 28th June 2009, 18:19   #284 (permalink)
 
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horatio

You are correct G-SOEI is going to fly out at some point.
G-BEJD by road to Millom for preservation.

all of the other aircraft were parted out and scrapped(some nose sections saved)

with the exception of
BGMO----Bangladesh
BIUV-----Guinea
OSOE----Janes U.K
AYIM----Janes U.K

nose sections that I know about

OPFW Millom
ATMI Millom
ORAL Ellesmere port
BVOV (complete a/c) Capernwray diving center
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Old 28th June 2009, 19:30   #285 (permalink)
 
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osoe and ayim are surely destined to be museum exhibits soo?
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Old 29th June 2009, 00:19   #286 (permalink)
 
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I believe G-BGMO and G-ORCP survived and flew off to Bangladesh a couple of years back...
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Old 29th June 2009, 18:09   #287 (permalink)
 
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It's sad.

I flew them all (except G-ORAL)

Looking back they were happy days.

SITW
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Old 30th June 2009, 22:25   #288 (permalink)
 
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G-SOEI 748 has now been cancelled from UK register and was doing engine tests today as N748D. Departure appears fairly imminent.

I remember the first appearance of the 748 at Blackpool when
Autair used G-ATMI and G-ATMJ to replace their Ambassadors on the Luton run in the late 1960s.
State of the art aircraft then. Sad to think we are unlikely to see them here again.
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Old 30th June 2009, 23:04   #289 (permalink)
 
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I would Imagine that soon we will hear the very last whine of a Dart engine at Blackpool when N748D departs....bit sad really.
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Old 1st July 2009, 02:29   #290 (permalink)
 
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HS 748

Sad I agree , but what a history , the Avroe 748 blazed a trail in the aviation history and provided many pilots with their first introduction in the real world of commercial aviation,lessons learned the hard way,without the benefit of flight simulators .
It is without doubt an aircraft that provided an ideal experience for many pilots who eventuallly went on to greater things and the airmanship and grounding of the HS748 were to give them the confidence to tackle the most demanding of situations on more modern aircraft.
There will be many former HS748 pilots who will look back on their early days conversion training and the effort and concentration that was demanded by their Training Captains,it was not easy and their mentors had to work them hard in order to prepare each new recruit to the exacting demands of what essentially was a night freight operation,when things went bang in the dark they took on a deeper dimension than on daylight operations.
This may well be the end of an era for the venerable "Budgie" however their are many of us who will say that it served us well,we relied on it through all weathers as we recognised that it was built of sterner stuff than many of its contemporaries and got us back to terra firma at the end of the night, sometimes more terra than firma !!
The HS748 will live on in the history of aviation for both former crews and all those involved. with the operation
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Old 3rd July 2009, 00:55   #291 (permalink)
 
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G-SOEI

G-SOEI has a new life in Kenya, East Africa.
Gods speed to the last of the 748's operated at EGNH.
A sad day Indeed.
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Old 3rd July 2009, 08:43   #292 (permalink)
 
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dont be sad, i'm sure mrj's 2 static displays at sen will soon take a trip to the seaside to be cut up also.......
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Old 3rd July 2009, 09:06   #293 (permalink)
 
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So has G-SOEI gone to Kenya already or does the new owner need assistance getting it there ?? PM me with info maybe ?

Are Janes not flying at all now ???
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Old 3rd July 2009, 10:14   #294 (permalink)
 
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not flying now ........ have they ever flown?
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Old 3rd July 2009, 11:47   #295 (permalink)
 
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Angel G-SOEI

So has the glorious old beast gone off to 748 Air Services or is it some other less reputable operator?
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Old 3rd July 2009, 14:17   #296 (permalink)
 
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All traces of Emerald have not yet disappeared...

G-BGMO which moved to Bangladesh in March this year
has retained the Emerald colour scheme with it's new
operator Easy Fly Express

Easy Fly Express Ltd. -- Home Page
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Old 4th July 2009, 23:05   #297 (permalink)
 
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G-BVOV pics

http://dive-site.co.uk/news.asp
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Old 6th July 2009, 08:50   #298 (permalink)
 
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Latest reports on the SEN 'spotters' site suggest that G-SOEI/N748D will position down to SEN initally as its onward sale is not yet completed.
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Old 7th July 2009, 11:20   #299 (permalink)
 
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For those of you who may be feeling a litle sad that the 748 has all but disappeared from operational service in the UK (but fingers crossed for the last two eh?), I have spent some considerable time scanning and uploading a few original British Aerospace 748 sales brochures from more optimistic times. There are some great technical drawings.

I have put them on Flickr, which if you are not familiar, is a Yahoo-owned photo sharing site. It might be nice for other people to add their Emerald photos too. I know there are lots of EA pics on Facebook, but if you're not a member of Facebook then you can't view them, so from that perspective Flickr is better for sharing.

I have more to add but have reached the monthly upload limit. Here's the links so far

748 Series 2B Airliner - a set on Flickr

748 Series 2B Technical Data - a set on Flickr

748 Technical Data (Book 2) - a set on Flickr

BAe ATP Sales Brochures - a set on Flickr

Emerald Airways Misc - a set on Flickr

HS748 Janes Aviation - a set on Flickr
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Old 8th July 2009, 02:10   #300 (permalink)
 
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Sir Stanley Bigh, excellent work mate!
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