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Old 29th September 2008, 14:13   #341 (permalink)
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Yes You are correct but my point was that on other forums you are holding the FAA up as the only (world) authority that we should all follow but then you fly for operator (s!) that avoid every FAA rule that may cost them money.
Seems you speak with forked tounge, TShirt.

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Regarding your "FAA ops only" comment this is also rubbish!
Really, you should make up your mind, old boy.

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Avoiding the Axial motion AD is purely financial driven and no other reason - they have had 5 years to accomplish this mod and avoided it
Entirely correct, and with full RR and regulatory authority compliance, via LOA.
It's called, efficient regulatory approved ops.
We need only look at a few other operators for entirely more obtuse regulatory oversight...bits of engines falling off airplanes at JED, is but one small example.
In fact, after four months of inspections by no less than five regulatory authorities, they all seemed rather impressed with the companies aircraft, and their maintenance state.
Of course, as you undoubtedly know nothing of all this, your comments otherwise are simply unsubstantiated conjecture on your part.
Why should we not be surprised...?

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Old 29th September 2008, 15:51   #342 (permalink)
 
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You got that one correct 411 about some companies and the engines falling apart in jed.
Surprised they have not killed anyone yet with the bad maint. and lack of oversight of this ACMI company.
Funny thing though all of there paperwork is correct.
Compared to the operator I think you are referring to your Tristars should do just fine.
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Old 29th September 2008, 16:33   #343 (permalink)
 
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Earl is spot on. Many operators have paperwork that says the maintenance has been done, the Ad complied with, or exemptions but is in reality All Smoke & Mirrors.

Someone needs to start checking the O2 Generators, RAT triggers etc.

Both life limited parts!
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Old 29th September 2008, 21:59   #344 (permalink)
 
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x-saudia L1011's

are all the x- Saudia 1011's stil in the dessert in saudi, or did they chop them up?Does anyone know there fate?
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Old 29th September 2008, 23:00   #345 (permalink)
 
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...and what did happen to the new cargo outfit out of Cyprus?
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Old 30th September 2008, 05:22   #346 (permalink)
 
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you fly for operator (s!) that avoid every FAA rule that may cost them money.
BTW what Tristar(s) does 411A fly?.

I thought Privilege was the only one (TL-ADW, msn 1242, ex YK-DLC/C-GTSP)
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Old 30th September 2008, 06:27   #347 (permalink)
 
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are all the x- Saudia 1011's stil in the dessert in saudi, or did they chop them up?Does anyone know there fate?
Only 4 remain, the rest have been parted out.
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I thought Privilege was the only one (TL-ADW, msn 1242, ex YK-DLC/C-GTSP)
That particular airplane is a superb example of a very well maintained -500.
They have spent quite a lot on it....and it shows.
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Old 30th September 2008, 09:08   #348 (permalink)
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...and what did happen to the new cargo outfit out of Cyprus?
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Old 30th September 2008, 12:08   #349 (permalink)
 
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...and what did happen to the new cargo outfit out of Cyprus?
Never began planned ops.
However, the jungle drums are beginning to beat once again about the 'possible' start of ops...strange as it may seem
The 'ole TriStar seems headed in the same direction as the old soldier that Douglas MacArthur spoke about many years ago...will not die, only slowly slowly fade away.
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Old 30th September 2008, 13:52   #350 (permalink)
 
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As for the Saudia L1011's. They started breaking them up but not too much to salvage there.
Two mechanics were killed a couple of weeks ago taking one apart when the fuel tank blew up!
Saudia investigating so everything has come to a full stop.
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Old 30th September 2008, 20:07   #351 (permalink)
 
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New Haj outfit out of Arizona?

Anyone heard of Tiger Air International, Scottsdale Arizona, L1011 operator?
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Old 30th September 2008, 20:18   #352 (permalink)
 
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Tiger Air International, Scottsdale Arizona

Believe they are trying to buy the ATA aircraft.

Few hurdles remain such as one of the ATA aircraft at VCV that is subject of Chapter11 for VAL (Victorville Aerospace). The "C Check" bill is some $800k so 2 courts will need to decide that one before that ship goes anywhere.

Lots of movement all over the place on the L1011 front, probably mainly due to the imminent Hajj.
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Old 1st October 2008, 02:29   #353 (permalink)
 
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How much would it cost to buy one of the ATA 500s? (without the pending bills, of course).

Thanks

C.
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Old 1st October 2008, 15:57   #354 (permalink)
 
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Camilo,

About $1m each is the current number.
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Old 5th October 2008, 18:52   #355 (permalink)
 
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Re:New Haj outfit out of Arizona?

So much silence from the typically vocal Arizona Tristar PPRUNER??
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Old 6th October 2008, 05:57   #356 (permalink)
 
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L1011 for sale.

Here.

Someone on this thread maybe interested.
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Old 6th October 2008, 06:02   #357 (permalink)
 
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why the hell would you post that on ebay?
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Old 7th October 2008, 00:17   #358 (permalink)
 
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Someone needs to start checking the O2 Generators, RAT triggers etc.

Both life limited parts!
As are the horizontal stabilizer attach pins.
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Old 7th October 2008, 09:49   #359 (permalink)
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Carl,
Yes but the Stab pins are cycle limited whereas the other are calendar limited.

There is a conception by some operator that if it is not flying its OK

The problem is that as these TC units are installed at build when the life expires there is a whole bunch due at the same time !!

Unless you are 411 then you just get a LOA ( He really likes those !) from you LOCAL friendly airworthiness authority !!

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Old 7th October 2008, 14:37   #360 (permalink)
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ATA L1011's

The first bankruptcy court decision should be today to decide who gets the first batch of ex ATA L1011's

Most bidders want to fly them so there's life in the old girl yet!

American Aviation Investments wants the airline the 121 certificate and aircraft.

This outfit is owned by George Soros who has plenty of financial clout!

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