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RR has supplied 7-8 kits to date.
Current delivery for kits ( Different for B2 and B4) is 6 to 12 months
RR will give an LTS ( Letter of Technical Support) if kits are ordered ( And paid
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I dont think and 22 B have been modified but not sure. In fact I am not sure if there is any 22B shop available aprt from RR.
Although this Axial Motion AD 2003-14-2 has all the publicity there are a couple more hookers on the HPC3 disc and the IP5 disc
On 1 Dec 2008 the life of the IP5 Disc ( Certain p/n's) drops from 22,500 cycles to 9,400 cycles. So on Nov 30 a disc with 22,490 cycles is legal on Dec 1 it aint
Figure that out
!
Current delivery for kits ( Different for B2 and B4) is 6 to 12 months
RR will give an LTS ( Letter of Technical Support) if kits are ordered ( And paid
)I dont think and 22 B have been modified but not sure. In fact I am not sure if there is any 22B shop available aprt from RR.
Although this Axial Motion AD 2003-14-2 has all the publicity there are a couple more hookers on the HPC3 disc and the IP5 disc
On 1 Dec 2008 the life of the IP5 Disc ( Certain p/n's) drops from 22,500 cycles to 9,400 cycles. So on Nov 30 a disc with 22,490 cycles is legal on Dec 1 it aint
Figure that out !
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Fuel burn was not that heavy, ran one of these -500 from South America to Madrid.
On a average 10-10.5 hour leg mach .84 fuel burn was between 84-85 tons.
Any one know how this compares to the others types?
We also carried full loads of 304 pax, always at max weight.
On a average 10-10.5 hour leg mach .84 fuel burn was between 84-85 tons.
Any one know how this compares to the others types?
We also carried full loads of 304 pax, always at max weight.
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Hi Earl
Had the pleasure to work with the L1011-500 during the mid-90's, routing South America-Lisbon. All in all nice birds, but rather temperature sensitive (payload restrictions kicked in heavily after 25/26°C, minded, we were on at 2500ft elevation).
I also remember that when we upgraded(?) to the A343, and comparing both types, the fuel burn of the -500 was more or less the block fuel for the A343, with the latter loading more SLF and cargo.
BF
Had the pleasure to work with the L1011-500 during the mid-90's, routing South America-Lisbon. All in all nice birds, but rather temperature sensitive (payload restrictions kicked in heavily after 25/26°C, minded, we were on at 2500ft elevation).
I also remember that when we upgraded(?) to the A343, and comparing both types, the fuel burn of the -500 was more or less the block fuel for the A343, with the latter loading more SLF and cargo.
BF
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Sent you a PM old cessna.
Not true.
Globejet pays its crews and bills , problem is with the Bolivian company.
GJ is still going strong, with good maintained aircraft.
They treat everyone as family at GJ, small company, great place to work.
Not true.
Globejet pays its crews and bills , problem is with the Bolivian company.
GJ is still going strong, with good maintained aircraft.
They treat everyone as family at GJ, small company, great place to work.
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Piece of junk that even Delta couldn't keep in the air....
Guess it wasn't so 'bad' after all....
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I agree with 411A there..heard many positives on this type.
ATA has opted to keep their L1011's while integrating the DC10's which apparently are not anywhere near as reliable!
Lot of L1011's coming out of mothballs lately. (ok the desert)
ATA has opted to keep their L1011's while integrating the DC10's which apparently are not anywhere near as reliable!
Lot of L1011's coming out of mothballs lately. (ok the desert)
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L-1011-200F s/n 1158 previously operated by Fine Air and Millon Air is currently stored in Roswell NM. Pictures take in the last two weeks, show engines have been removed and not in the best shape. s/n 1158 was the last EA Tristar delivered and spent time with LTU, freighter conversion was by Marshall.
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A European L1011 AOC and a EASA registered L1011 !
Traffic rights now approved, approval for advance ticket sales are next, AOC in the respective country already issued, aircraft selected, maintenance underway shortly.
Oddly enough, I was just informed today that a -500 may also be required, for Caribbean/Central America flights.
All this is possible through the direct efforts of an ex-Laker guy, the marketing manager, whom I have known for many years.
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Tristars to Europe - Recheck
Quote from Skyline15
Quote from 411A
So these are not the same operation, ergo we have two new Tristar operations coming to Europe !
Good news indeed.
Thanks contributors for your time and trouble.
Be lucky
David
Maybe completely unrelated, but enthusiast magazine Scramble reports that registration PH-RST has been reserved for L-1011 c/n 193W-1189 ex N753DA. Quoted owner is "World International Airways."
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Ah...no, just flying to Europe, very limited destinations.
Traffic rights now approved, approval for advance ticket sales are next, AOC in the respective country already issued, aircraft selected, maintenance underway shortly.
Oddly enough, I was just informed today that a -500 may also be required, for Caribbean/Central America flights.
All this is possible through the direct efforts of an ex-Laker guy, the marketing manager, whom I have known for many years.
A European L1011 AOC and a EASA registered L1011 !
Traffic rights now approved, approval for advance ticket sales are next, AOC in the respective country already issued, aircraft selected, maintenance underway shortly.
Oddly enough, I was just informed today that a -500 may also be required, for Caribbean/Central America flights.
All this is possible through the direct efforts of an ex-Laker guy, the marketing manager, whom I have known for many years.
Good news indeed.Thanks contributors for your time and trouble.
Be lucky
David
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Could be in progress shortly, all in good time.
Then again, we may get a waiver from the respective countries regulatory authority...working on this now.
Time will tell.
Then again, we may get a waiver from the respective countries regulatory authority...working on this now.
Time will tell.
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5y744
I will be polite as I can be about your post. You are an idiot.
411A is right on.
ATA bought, as I remember, 6 of them from Boeing which had taken them in trade and one year later Delta offered to buy them back at 1 $million more than ATA paid for them. Hardy sounds like they were trying to dump them.
I flew the -500 from Stockholm to Pheuket, full pax load, 10 hours 15 minutes many times.
Kenny Polzin
Sorry....... that would be $1million each, more.
George could have sold them and retired at that point.
411A is right on.
ATA bought, as I remember, 6 of them from Boeing which had taken them in trade and one year later Delta offered to buy them back at 1 $million more than ATA paid for them. Hardy sounds like they were trying to dump them.
I flew the -500 from Stockholm to Pheuket, full pax load, 10 hours 15 minutes many times.
Kenny Polzin
Sorry....... that would be $1million each, more.
George could have sold them and retired at that point.
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polzin,
Addtionally to your responce to 5y744
When Delta could not buy the ATA TriStar's they picked up 10 ex-Eastern L-1011's. The majority of these were in "rough" shape and Delta still thought that they were worth the extra maintenance costs. Remember, it was not until Delta had removed the TriStar's from service that they started to have revenue problems, that ultimately lead to their bankruptcy.
A couple of other airliners Air Transat and LTU have both publicly stated they owe their existance to the proffits they generated while operating the TriStar.
Addtionally to your responce to 5y744
When Delta could not buy the ATA TriStar's they picked up 10 ex-Eastern L-1011's. The majority of these were in "rough" shape and Delta still thought that they were worth the extra maintenance costs. Remember, it was not until Delta had removed the TriStar's from service that they started to have revenue problems, that ultimately lead to their bankruptcy.
A couple of other airliners Air Transat and LTU have both publicly stated they owe their existance to the proffits they generated while operating the TriStar.
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I was on my way from Freetown to Nairobi yesterday on Kenya Airways and the flight was via Accra , and in Accra I saw on the ramp a Tristar 500, with LX registration , and being cleaned undernieth the fuselage , maybe to get rid of oil and dirt , also they had taken off the airlines name from the fuselage , looked like it had been written "Star" maybe this one was going to a better home? Its was a pax aircraft , not cargo , maybe it was one of those that were cargo with no cargo door , and no 9g net?
Anyone have any details on this one? certainly alot of activity around it.
Aircraft had a blue tail , the rest was white
Stay lucky
Anyone have any details on this one? certainly alot of activity around it.
Aircraft had a blue tail , the rest was white
Stay lucky
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CS-TMR left Amsterdam-Schiphol today after a 3 year stay at the
airport.
Enroute to Lisbon.
Some small and dark weather pics of her departure can be seen here
http://www.scramble .nl/forum/ viewtopic. php?t=34010
airport.
Enroute to Lisbon.
Some small and dark weather pics of her departure can be seen here
http://www.scramble .nl/forum/ viewtopic. php?t=34010
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Should see another -500 operarating in and out of Warsaw beginning tomorrow.
These aircraft may be a bit old, but reliable,with the shortage of widebody aircraft they are making a come back.
Last ones I have seen are in better shape and maintained than some 747's I have operated in the past with previous company.
So have a nice day 5y744!
Saudia has some 16 or 17 of these -200's parked in Taif.
2 or 3 of them have had the rear spar mod completed.
Never understood why they could not be sold, except the maint records were never kept correctly and previous buyers attempts to rectify this problem was met with great difficulty and abandoned.
But then, it is the majik kingdom, nothing is easy there.
Ali babba still rules!
These aircraft may be a bit old, but reliable,with the shortage of widebody aircraft they are making a come back.
Last ones I have seen are in better shape and maintained than some 747's I have operated in the past with previous company.
So have a nice day 5y744!
Saudia has some 16 or 17 of these -200's parked in Taif.
2 or 3 of them have had the rear spar mod completed.
Never understood why they could not be sold, except the maint records were never kept correctly and previous buyers attempts to rectify this problem was met with great difficulty and abandoned.
But then, it is the majik kingdom, nothing is easy there.
Ali babba still rules!
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