PPRuNe Forums

Go Back   PPRuNe Forums > Other Aircrew Forums > Freight Dogs
Forgotten your Username/Password?
Register FAQ Calendar Advertise Mark Forums Read

Freight Dogs Finally a forum for those midnight prowler types who utilise the unglamorous parts of airports that many of us never get to see. Freight Dogs is for pilots and crew who operate mostly without SLF.


Reply
 
Thread Tools Display Modes
Old 4th May 2009, 19:11   #261 (permalink)
 
Join Date: Aug 2006
Location: UAE for now
Posts: 13
And what a coincidence that there is suddenly another ad on Climbto350.com for Midex flight crews...
shroom is offline   Reply
Old 4th May 2009, 21:10   #262 (permalink)
 
Join Date: Nov 2004
Location: (no longer in) Al Bilad
Age: 41
Posts: 74
The crew meeting on 1 May was a real eye-opener ! Not only was this rotation 'plan' revealed, but the "Doctor" personally explained that he had 3000 resumes on file, and that the crews must be prepared to accept the change or leave.

He also let it slip that he knew the crews have no other place to go!!!!!

I sincerely hope the people who have sent in the 3000 CVs read these posts and understand what kind of a SHIfTy operation they are applying to.
Podunk is offline   Reply
Old 4th May 2009, 22:10   #263 (permalink)
 
Join Date: Feb 2001
Location: Europe
Posts: 646
Podunk,

I have no idea of what is Midex like but I should say that message from management (as per your description) is simply a statement of reality of the current market, nothing less nothing more.
If all those 3000 pilots had a chance to get into first class operation they would not apply to Midex, aren't they? Sometimes crappy job is still better than no job...
CargoOne is offline   Reply
Old 4th May 2009, 22:46   #264 (permalink)
 
Join Date: May 2000
Location: New York
Posts: 508
11 weeks on and 2 weeks off. YGBSM. That's totally unacceptable.

And just how many days of that 77 straight workdays is an average pilot actually flying??
Roadtrip is offline   Reply
Old 4th May 2009, 23:33   #265 (permalink)
 
Join Date: Sep 2000
Location: USA
Posts: 164
Don't know how I have missed all this good stuff but, I know a couple of the guy's hired by MIDEX. They were both fired from another carrier for good cause. That ought to tell you something right there, seems the mis-fits can always find a job with the bottom feeders.

Good luck to you, I would run away, run very fast.
Fr8Dog is offline   Reply
Old 5th May 2009, 07:35   #266 (permalink)
 
Join Date: Nov 2004
Location: (no longer in) Al Bilad
Age: 41
Posts: 74
Fr8dog................

That's the crux of the problem, neither the Doctor nor Midex has any regard for the existing contract, it's take it or leave it.

If you leave still owe training pay, even if previously qualified, they want US$8000 just for a sim check and line training!!!!

& even if you could get out of the country, they'd just withhold your last salary..... and ban you from ever working in the GCC anywhere !

Last edited by Podunk : 5th May 2009 at 08:00.
Podunk is offline   Reply
Old 5th May 2009, 16:24   #267 (permalink)
 
Join Date: May 2000
Location: New York
Posts: 239
As interesting as these posts are, I note the lack of posts from the Dr.'s cheerleaders!
WhaleDriver is offline   Reply
Old 5th May 2009, 17:02   #268 (permalink)
 
Join Date: Dec 2000
Location: UK & points middle east
Posts: 120
It's tough to argue with the truth..... This is a PR exercise these folks can't win.
Paladini is offline   Reply
Old 5th May 2009, 19:14   #269 (permalink)
 
Join Date: Apr 2008
Location: Parts unknown
Age: 49
Posts: 29
Why respond?

I find this latest interest in Midex Airlines from supposedly outsiders kind of interesting.

For the record, I was sitting in this meeting you all are suppose to know everything about and I can tell you not ONE crewmember said anything when the President of Midex Airlines announced the new duty schedule. Nor did anyone say anything when he opened the floor up for questions or suggestions about the new duty schedule or any other rumor.

Also, for the record, instead of furloughing half of the A300 Crew force and putting them on the streets (like one of the bottom feeders you compare Midex too), the President choose to change the schedule to 10 weeks on and 3 weeks off and keep them on the payroll.

This may not be the greatest situation for everyone but at least they are not unemployed.
Lion 01 is offline   Reply
Old 5th May 2009, 20:28   #270 (permalink)
 
Join Date: May 2000
Location: New York
Posts: 239
Let me get this straight, decreasing your time off is putting off furloughs?

A room full of at will employees, and noone says anything, imagine that.
WhaleDriver is offline   Reply
Old 6th May 2009, 07:19   #271 (permalink)
 
Join Date: Nov 2004
Location: (no longer in) Al Bilad
Age: 41
Posts: 74
When asked where he thought Midex would be in 5 years, the Doc, with no sarcasm visible, asked "What do YOU care, are you a stock holder?"

What a team building inspiration.....
Podunk is offline   Reply
Old 6th May 2009, 20:18   #272 (permalink)
 
Join Date: Apr 2004
Location: Confirmed Gate Guardian
Posts: 354
Sorry to hear about what's happening there. Since I commented on Dec 31st about every paycheck, there have been 4 more.

Sounds like this latest regime is encouraging people to walk rather than being pushed.

What has saddened me about this whole thread is how nasty certain people have been - from square one.

Frankly the aviation world is reeling enough without the gallons of vitriol being poured in .

Whatever happened to the old adage, 'if you've nothing nice to say, then don't say anything', that would have been a vast improvement on this thread.

My best wishes to the guys I know, affected by these woes.
Dengue_Dude is offline   Reply
Old 6th May 2009, 22:51   #273 (permalink)
 
Join Date: Feb 2008
Location: USA
Posts: 27
This one just for Lion 01.
You were at this meeting, first questioned asked crews were intimidated from the answer given by the doctor.
Do you expect any further questions when their credibility was put in question after this?
Crews felt they were in a no win situation.
Instead of this man saying guys I have issue that is becoming a problem I need your help, he intimidated everyone there.
Take it or leave it.
There are better ways to motivate crews in these troubled times
MrXrules is offline   Reply
Old 6th May 2009, 23:12   #274 (permalink)
 
Join Date: Sep 2008
Location: Langtbortistan
Posts: 46
Funny Reading

This outfit is soon dead....no contracts and nothing going on. Once the industry picks up they will begging on the street corner for crews willing to bend over. But doubt they will be around then..........LOL.
Storpikk is offline   Reply
Old 7th May 2009, 09:53   #275 (permalink)
 
Join Date: Mar 2007
Location: on the edge
Posts: 67
Normally I wouldn't, but..........

Storpikk,

You seem to be such a happy, content person. HOME WITH MOM is just where you belong, not in the cockpit............
slowto280 is offline   Reply
Old 7th May 2009, 14:53   #276 (permalink)
 
Join Date: Sep 2008
Location: Langtbortistan
Posts: 46
LOL

Guess I hit a nerve there buddy, I am just keeping it real dude. I know for some its hard to see the writing on the wall....

Enjoy.....
Storpikk is offline   Reply
Old 7th May 2009, 17:44   #277 (permalink)
 
Join Date: May 2000
Location: New York
Posts: 239
How busy has the 747 been? Is business picking up? In the first three months of this year, I heard a number of around 200 hours were put on it. That's not very much.
WhaleDriver is offline   Reply
Old 7th May 2009, 19:40   #278 (permalink)
 
Join Date: Jan 2001
Location: Jakarta
Age: 57
Posts: 171
What's next? "ALL LEAVES CANCELLED UNTIL MORALE IMPROVES"????

I know a few guys still with MIDEX, don't know how long they'll stay.

Hope they can survive these latest management faux pas and gaffes.

BTW, what is the plural of Faux-pas? I'm sure we'll see more soon.
Kato747 is offline   Reply
Old 7th May 2009, 20:42   #279 (permalink)
 
Join Date: Jun 2007
Location: In this very moment of a short life.
Posts: 127
Cool

I would like to point out to those complaining about their treatment at MIDEX that neither APG or the Dr. have any experience in this business and their attitude /reactions shows this.
Siguarda al fine is offline   Reply
Old 7th May 2009, 21:49   #280 (permalink)
 
Join Date: Feb 2008
Location: USA
Posts: 27
Lion 01,cat got your tounge, truth kinda hurts dont ya know.
MrXrules is offline   Reply
Reply


Thread Tools
Display Modes


Posting Rules
vB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are On
Pingbacks are On
Refbacks are Off


All times are GMT +1. The time now is 14:15.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.6.8
Copyright ©2000 - 2009, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
SEO by vBSEO 3.2.0 RC7
© 1996-2009 The Professional Pilots Rumour Network

As these are anonymous forums the origins of the contributions may be opposite to what may be apparent. In fact the press may use it, or the unscrupulous, or sciolists*, to elicit certain reactions.

*"sciolist"... Noun, archaic. "a person who pretends to be knowledgeable and well informed".