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Old 30th Nov 2006, 21:54   #1 (permalink)
 
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Arbitration Ruling --- Atlas/Polar

Ran into several Atlas and Polar folks at a bar in ORD. To say the least, the discussion was heated at best.

The topic was a recent arbitrator's ruling that Atlas could no longer fly as a subcontractor to Polar because Polar had pilots on furlough, in violation of Polar's CBA and a previous arbitrator's ruling concerning subcontract flying---but the Arbitrator had yet to decide what the remedy for this situation would be-----hence, the heated discussion.

Atlas Air and Polar Air are subsidiraries of Atlas Air Worldwide Holding. They are two separate companies owned by one holding company, AAWH. Polar flies schedules. Atlas is an ACMI subcontract carrier. Atlas flies 4 aircraft equivalents/120 pilots for Polar. My sense was that it appears that AAWH mgt plays both pilot groups against each other to each union's detriment.

So what happens now?

The Polar guys said, "transfer 4 a/c from Atlas to Polar and furlough 120 Atlas pilots---problem solved."

The Atlas guys said, "merge the two airlines under the Atlas certificate, create one seniority list, and the problem goes away."

So my question is, what is most likely the outcome in this Atlas/Polar uniion struggle?

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Old 30th Nov 2006, 23:34   #2 (permalink)
 
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Angry No More!!!!

Please, Not another Atlas/Polar thread!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Last edited by Po Boy; 30th Nov 2006 at 23:34. Reason: Who Cares
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Old 30th Nov 2006, 23:40   #3 (permalink)
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Please, Not another Atlas/Polar thread!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
I second that!
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Old 1st Dec 2006, 02:40   #4 (permalink)
 
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Whatsamatta? You guys fingers bleedin'?
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Old 1st Dec 2006, 03:52   #5 (permalink)
 
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I third it!
I hate doin this, but I have to agree with FF........enough!
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Absolutely shut it down. What is going to happen will happen, were all tired of it.
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Old 1st Dec 2006, 16:51   #7 (permalink)
 
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Damn! These are the best replies ever. A curse on those who disagree!!
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Old 1st Dec 2006, 19:08   #8 (permalink)
 
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Close thread!

Finally something Atlas and Polar agrees on!
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Old 2nd Dec 2006, 01:45   #9 (permalink)
 
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Wow, I believe a Christmas miracle happpened early.
See you guys can agree to disagree...
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