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Old 31st Jan 2017, 20:22   #1381 (permalink)
 
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Hi guys,

thanks for the reply, it is highly appreciated. Shame its like this, but it is as it is in this case. Better luck next time.
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Old 5th Feb 2017, 15:16   #1382 (permalink)
 
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New info

Hi all,
I passed the MollyMawk and have been invited to the interview,
To any of the Cargolux guys and gals, is there any insider expansion or news that I could use at the interview to impress?

Or any other advice would be appreciated

Thanks in advance

AS
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Old 6th Feb 2017, 08:37   #1383 (permalink)
 
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Who do you want to impress with your desire to work under the new CV T&Cs?

Flying longhaul you should ask yourself if it would be a pleasant experience for me to sit together with you in a cockpit for 11 hours.

Anyway, good luck to you! ;-)
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Old 6th Feb 2017, 09:37   #1384 (permalink)
 
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Final06 is right, it's not pleasant to sit next to him for 11 hours.
You would be far better off sitting next to me
Regarding the new T&C, a deterioration compared to the ones we have but an improvement for a lot of people coming from short-haul.
Don't compare them with ours but just accept them or stay where you are.
Besides, it's not just about money right?
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Old 6th Feb 2017, 10:49   #1385 (permalink)
 
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Haha

Yes I can see that ^^

True the T&Cs have changed but haven't been given it directly so will make the judgement call when it comes. But would most likely be better than what I have now anyway,
I've been a jumbolina contractor all my flying career unable to land a permanent contract, plus my wife works in lux so being based here would not only be a jump to the jumbo, but an opportunity to settle down too.
So let's see, I hope I'm Cargolux caliber and to see you all soon
👍
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Old 6th Feb 2017, 11:17   #1386 (permalink)
 
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Aeroskizzle,
although I do not like the change of contract, there are numerous of
the new guys in a better spirit than some before and it's always what
you make of it for yourself.
As for the interview, be yourself, it's not rocket scientists that they are
looking for. You don't even have to sneak around the moving close to LUX
part since your wife is already working there!!!
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Old 7th Feb 2017, 10:48   #1387 (permalink)
 
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It seems that as of yesterday, CLX is also accepting "school of higher general secundary education" as opposed to pre-University education. This has been sent by interpersonal to candidates who were not accepted to proceed earlier.
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Old 6th Mar 2017, 10:21   #1388 (permalink)
 
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Good morning¡
Does anyone knows how long it takes for an answer (to proceed to the first step) since I applied?
Thnaks
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Old 8th Mar 2017, 18:50   #1389 (permalink)
 
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Can anyone advice how long does it take to well prepare mollymawk test having a reasonable time to study?is about 20 days enough?
Thanks for your reply
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Old 11th Mar 2017, 08:17   #1390 (permalink)
 
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For me, I had my application on file previously. And when the new requirements came, I up dated my info, and got a call about 3 weeks after.

MollyMawk was quite tough, 20 days should be fine. I had 2 weeks and it was enough for me.
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Old 11th Mar 2017, 14:14   #1391 (permalink)
 
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Thanks for your the info Aeroshizzle!
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Old 11th Mar 2017, 18:27   #1392 (permalink)
 
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Aeroshizzle,thanks for your reply
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Old 29th Mar 2017, 09:55   #1393 (permalink)
 
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Recent article. People are hired and then just no-show training ?:

"Aircargoeye.com has learned that some potential first officers – scheduled to undertake the airline’s training ahead of being employed – simply failed to turn up for the course."

https://aircargoeye.com/cargolux-fly...lots-shortage/
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Old 30th Mar 2017, 19:00   #1394 (permalink)
 
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Recent article. People are hired and then just no-show training?:

https://aircargoeye.com/cargolux-fly...lots-shortage/
Correct.

The article is spot on.

Just had GS-day and there were only 2 new F/Os scheduled for a type rating course A.
Normally it is 6.

The news has spread around that CLX management does not show ANY respect towards their pilots.

Why should someone sacrifice his entire private life, flying around the world in the shortest legally possible time, illegal back-to-back rostering, just fly, sleep, eat, sometimes not even having time for the gym, for 3000 € per month?

Why should someone fly longhaul for CLX without a chance to see the world anymore?

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Old 30th Mar 2017, 22:31   #1395 (permalink)
 
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Correct.


The news has spread around that CLX management does not show ANY respect towards their pilots.

Why should someone sacrifice his entire private life, flying around the world in the shortest legally possible time, illegal back-to-back rostering, just fly, sleep, eat, sometimes not even having time for the gym, for 3000 € per month?
"Power concedes nothing without a demand. It never did and it never will. Find out just what any people will quietly submit to and you have found out the exact measure of injustice and wrong which will be imposed upon them, and these will continue till they are resisted with either words or blows, or with both. The limits of tyrants are prescribed by the endurance of those whom they oppress."


Frederick Douglass

Douglass was addressing grander issues than the travails of airline pilots but the principle is exactly the same: if you'll agree to take a beating, all you can reasonably expect is further beatings. And you'll surely get them.
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Old 30th Mar 2017, 22:45   #1396 (permalink)
 
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Just had the long IAH layover twice in the last 2 months, once with new guys who wanted to see the world and it was a blast and once with older guys who didn't show up once because they stayed in LUX time.
Don't try to fight a war against people which are joining now about the fight you have lost against management. The reasons for joining CV might be different from when you did it and certainly it's not these persons fault what conditions are there now but rather ours.!
since we desperately need new colleagues I'd appreciate any motivated new hire over an overly frustrated old one which still doesn't have the gut to leave a situation he sees as unbearable, which doesn't mean I do support it, but it's the status quo we have to fight and it doesn't help to sit there and quote you did it all right and every body else does it wrong.
In the history of CV there have been numerous different contracts which where always leveled at one point. Was it only mr you which joined at the right point and were you always in the front line fighting for it???
I'd like to see that you are one of the guys which actively fight in the union, otherwise, what are you complaining about?
I will surely not join you in the bashing of young colleagues which do join for a reason that you can't judge.
Again this is not to support what is going on in the company, but to blame it to the new hires which do take an opportunity, is the wrong approach.
It is the current situation we do have to fight for all our well being, not the new members which are certainly not responsible for it.
Frustration will not bring you any further my friend, it might just impact your professional judgement.
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Old 30th Mar 2017, 23:01   #1397 (permalink)
 
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And sorry to pick on your nick,
final 06 always was, and will be a pain in the a.. until they finally level the hill!
As much as I enjoy it with 10.000+ hrs there for a change!!!
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Old 31st Mar 2017, 06:44   #1398 (permalink)
 
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@16down

Nice that seniority and companymindedness works for your.

However the forum is eager to hear your explanation why selected candidates don't show up for the type rating with no notice at all.

And why entry requirements are ridiculously low in these days.

And why the B-scalers tend to dine out in cheap hamburger eateries.
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Old 31st Mar 2017, 12:54   #1399 (permalink)
 
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@16down, you're spot on. I totally agree. Some older colleagues lost complete reality.

@final06, there's always time to workout when you're on the road. Total nonsense. It's all about priorities.

A happy and fit pilot.
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Old 31st Mar 2017, 21:32   #1400 (permalink)
 
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I've just received the fourth or fifth email asking me to chose a selection date for this psychometric testing in LUX.
So let me get this right, they want me to travel over there on my days OFF to take their mollymack whatever, to then have a shot at the interviews later on?
I wonder why people are not showing up for ground course!
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