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Time between 1. and 2. stage of the Assessment center
Hey guys,
how long did you wait after you passed the first stage for the Interview in Luxemburg?
I would be pleased to receive any informations concerning the 2. stage of the assessment. You can send me a pm.
Thanks a lot!
how long did you wait after you passed the first stage for the Interview in Luxemburg?
I would be pleased to receive any informations concerning the 2. stage of the assessment. You can send me a pm.
Thanks a lot!
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Well I'm not to experienced with online applications but I just had a curious look and there is just a cv and no icv possibility anymore on career.aero.
So where do you apply for ICV or is it already the same???
Interesting!
So where do you apply for ICV or is it already the same???
Interesting!
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Cargolux details requested!
Hi guys,
Might be a stupid question but no where does it mention that you need an EASA license or the right to live and work in the EU for Cargolux.. Is this the case? I would love to apply but not sure if I'm wasting my time as a New Zealander!
Might be a stupid question but no where does it mention that you need an EASA license or the right to live and work in the EU for Cargolux.. Is this the case? I would love to apply but not sure if I'm wasting my time as a New Zealander!
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O we do have our Kiwi here and a very eloquent one, but I'm afraid
as much fun as he is, he has a british passport and license as well.
Generally it's a EASA and the right to live and work in the EU unfortunately.
But try, good luck!
as much fun as he is, he has a british passport and license as well.
Generally it's a EASA and the right to live and work in the EU unfortunately.
But try, good luck!
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Cargolux (CV, Luxembourg) chairman Paul Helminger told staff representatives and union officials at a meeting last week that the airline will require USD100 million in annual capital injections in order to meet its future financial commitments in addition to remaining competitive.
The Luxemburger Wort says Helminger described the freight specialist's financial situation as "very serious" adding that contentious plans to grow Cargolux Italia (C8, Milan Malpensa) are among Cargolux's last resort options to remain afloat.
"Long gone are the days when Cargolux was making annual profits of USD200-300 million annually. In 2013 it lost money and while returning to the black last year, the estimated profit was only USD12 million. So cash is an issue," OGBL union spokesman Hubert Ollerich said.
The move, however, has drawn severe criticism from the Luxembourg Confederation of Christian Trade Unions (LCGB) and Luxembourg’s pilot association (ALPL) which claim the decision to transfer an aircraft to Italy, and 25 jobs along with it, amounts to a forced cost-cutting programme that could lead to more outsourcing in the future. Talks between management and the unions concerning the Italian venture have yet to reach an agreement.
The Lloyds Loading List news site reports unions are also unhappy about plans to establish Cargolux China (Zhengzhou) - a joint-venture between the Luxembourg carrier and the Zhengzhou-based Henan Civil Aviation Development & Investment Company (HNCA) which already owns a 35% stake in Cargolux.
Under its current shareholding, HNCA will hold 51% of the joint-venture with Cargolux to hold 24%. While there is provision for other Luxembourg shareholders to control the remaining 25% stake, unions are concerned that should no suitable local partner be found, Cargolux would lack blocking rights on strategic decisions.
The Cargolux China subsidiary is currently undergoing a feasibility study with results likely to be out later in the year.
The Luxemburger Wort says Helminger described the freight specialist's financial situation as "very serious" adding that contentious plans to grow Cargolux Italia (C8, Milan Malpensa) are among Cargolux's last resort options to remain afloat.
"Long gone are the days when Cargolux was making annual profits of USD200-300 million annually. In 2013 it lost money and while returning to the black last year, the estimated profit was only USD12 million. So cash is an issue," OGBL union spokesman Hubert Ollerich said.
The move, however, has drawn severe criticism from the Luxembourg Confederation of Christian Trade Unions (LCGB) and Luxembourg’s pilot association (ALPL) which claim the decision to transfer an aircraft to Italy, and 25 jobs along with it, amounts to a forced cost-cutting programme that could lead to more outsourcing in the future. Talks between management and the unions concerning the Italian venture have yet to reach an agreement.
The Lloyds Loading List news site reports unions are also unhappy about plans to establish Cargolux China (Zhengzhou) - a joint-venture between the Luxembourg carrier and the Zhengzhou-based Henan Civil Aviation Development & Investment Company (HNCA) which already owns a 35% stake in Cargolux.
Under its current shareholding, HNCA will hold 51% of the joint-venture with Cargolux to hold 24%. While there is provision for other Luxembourg shareholders to control the remaining 25% stake, unions are concerned that should no suitable local partner be found, Cargolux would lack blocking rights on strategic decisions.
The Cargolux China subsidiary is currently undergoing a feasibility study with results likely to be out later in the year.
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I find it quite ironic that every CV page I look at, even above this one, has a advert for EK looking for F/O's! So, my advice to all you budding CV wannbee's, unless you are desperate to live in a slowly bankrupting europe, with airlines that have the same amount of respect for their employee's as their Gulf counterparts, look closely at EK and Ethihad, forget QR, you'll get no respect there, but the when you join them at least you know what your getting into! As a F/o of over 10 years, i wish i had had this info when i was younger, and had not wasted my life in an airline where you have great crews, great friends, great destinations, great A/C, but **** senior management, no respect, lies, broken promises, threats, and more lies, and a dark future by management wanting cuts from pilots year in year out, to keep up their ever increasing bonus! Then by all means go ahead, but don't be fooled, i cannot see it getting better, and so polish up my CV for BS that i know are true!
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Things moving ahead with lower salaries...
Cargolux and Unions show will to compromise
Luxembourg, 12th March 2015
Today’s meeting yielded movement on both sides
The Cargolux management met with representatives of the unions OGB‑L and LCGB today to drive forward negotiations on a new collective work agreement. The meeting was held in an open and constructive atmosphere and both sides showed their mutual willingness to compromise. The number of open items was significantly reduced and a common ground has been reached on several points. All agreements are subject to the approval of the Cargolux Board of Directors.
Both parties arranged to set up working groups that will establish the collective work agreement texts on the closed, or close to being closed, items. While Cargolux dropped its call for time unit freezes, OGB-L agreed to lower entry salaries for new hires of both ground staff and pilots. Excellent progress was also made on other crew-related items which are close to a settlement.
The Cargolux management showed its willingness to cap the disputed growth of Cargolux Italia to four aircraft which was welcomed by the union representatives. Additionally, Cargolux will introduce a further aircraft to its Luxembourg-based fleet.
However, no progress has been made on Cargolux’s request to raise the number of available crew duty days to a minimum of 200 per year, up from the 186 today. Pilot representatives unfortunately indicated no willingness to move forward on this demand and still show a strong resistance without a reasonable counteroffer. The number of 200 crew duty days is still lower than the industry average; as a comparison, Cargolux Italia crews work 236 days per year.
The negotiations are still going on and are expected to continue into the night.
Luxembourg, 12th March 2015
Today’s meeting yielded movement on both sides
The Cargolux management met with representatives of the unions OGB‑L and LCGB today to drive forward negotiations on a new collective work agreement. The meeting was held in an open and constructive atmosphere and both sides showed their mutual willingness to compromise. The number of open items was significantly reduced and a common ground has been reached on several points. All agreements are subject to the approval of the Cargolux Board of Directors.
Both parties arranged to set up working groups that will establish the collective work agreement texts on the closed, or close to being closed, items. While Cargolux dropped its call for time unit freezes, OGB-L agreed to lower entry salaries for new hires of both ground staff and pilots. Excellent progress was also made on other crew-related items which are close to a settlement.
The Cargolux management showed its willingness to cap the disputed growth of Cargolux Italia to four aircraft which was welcomed by the union representatives. Additionally, Cargolux will introduce a further aircraft to its Luxembourg-based fleet.
However, no progress has been made on Cargolux’s request to raise the number of available crew duty days to a minimum of 200 per year, up from the 186 today. Pilot representatives unfortunately indicated no willingness to move forward on this demand and still show a strong resistance without a reasonable counteroffer. The number of 200 crew duty days is still lower than the industry average; as a comparison, Cargolux Italia crews work 236 days per year.
The negotiations are still going on and are expected to continue into the night.
I don't care how many days others work.
Even if the ICV people would work 365 days a year I would not be willing to give away any off-day.
It would be extremely disappointing for all the Cargolux first officers if the unions would let Cargolux Italia even expand beyond what they have right now.
They should insist on the closure of that money losing company.
Even if the ICV people would work 365 days a year I would not be willing to give away any off-day.
It would be extremely disappointing for all the Cargolux first officers if the unions would let Cargolux Italia even expand beyond what they have right now.
They should insist on the closure of that money losing company.
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Hopefully you realise that by taking this position "I don't care" you opening more and more possibilities to the other side not to care about you and your opinion either. If productivity is lower than industry average you can fairly expect to find yourself on the street along with all others and airline in the receivership one day.
I don't care how many days others work.
Even if the ICV people would work 365 days a year I would not be willing to give away any off-day.
Even if the ICV people would work 365 days a year I would not be willing to give away any off-day.
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I am not involved in CV so I only say what I hear. Productivity can be measured in a few ways but generally speaking this is flying time, roster patterns, days on/off. For airline it makes a big difference whether pilot is available 14 days or 23 days even he flies the same 85..90 hours per month
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As simple as that....
Stay where u r. CV is on very steep dive and will most likely not recover from it with current or even new management. Sad but true...
Good luck,
hurz
Stay where u r. CV is on very steep dive and will most likely not recover from it with current or even new management. Sad but true...
Good luck,
hurz
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Not only is it legal, it was necessary
Luxemburger Wort - Pilotes espionnés: c'est légal
For a long time, I thought all hope was lost for this great airline. A few rotten apples have cultured the negative sentiment to ensure that they can keep on misusing the the humane side of this company and the unequalled social security of Luxembourg.
Would you want to work for a company that condones such misuse and unequal treatment, at your expense?
For a long time, I thought all hope was lost for this great airline. A few rotten apples have cultured the negative sentiment to ensure that they can keep on misusing the the humane side of this company and the unequalled social security of Luxembourg.
Would you want to work for a company that condones such misuse and unequal treatment, at your expense?
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First of all, I’m a discipline supporter, so everybody has to be treated equally. For a given input, you must have the same output. Let me say that I like your Socratic way of explaining your point of view. So let me give some others. The readers are very smart, so we can allow them to have their own point of view.
- Why happens this now, and not two years ago, for example?
- Is the loss of license rate consistent with the sick rate? Could be this related to the rosters and our way of life i.e flying round the world in five days, sometimes three times per roster? Yes/no
- This absenteeism is consistent with the dozens of drop offs of the last two years? Yes/no
- Are ground people treated the same way or are only the pilots? Yes/no
- Could the same guy who made the infamous ‘wing wave’ have the ethical background and strength to take such actions? Yes/no
- If some people were taken unjustified sick leaves, would not make sense to invite them for a coffee without cookies session and try to find a different solution? It’s not better to give them unpaid leave, part time or early retirement, being cost neutral (of course)? It’s not better to invite them to leave, even? It’s not better to do this ratter than damaging the image and reputation or the company? Yes/no
- Why happens this now, and not two years ago, for example?
- Is the loss of license rate consistent with the sick rate? Could be this related to the rosters and our way of life i.e flying round the world in five days, sometimes three times per roster? Yes/no
- This absenteeism is consistent with the dozens of drop offs of the last two years? Yes/no
- Are ground people treated the same way or are only the pilots? Yes/no
- Could the same guy who made the infamous ‘wing wave’ have the ethical background and strength to take such actions? Yes/no
- If some people were taken unjustified sick leaves, would not make sense to invite them for a coffee without cookies session and try to find a different solution? It’s not better to give them unpaid leave, part time or early retirement, being cost neutral (of course)? It’s not better to invite them to leave, even? It’s not better to do this ratter than damaging the image and reputation or the company? Yes/no
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- Why happens this now, and not two years ago, for example?
I do not know. I believe that many have concluded that it is to put pressure on the unions to move on with the CWA. I doubt that even your current management is that masochistic.
- Is the loss of license rate consistent with the sick rate? Could be this related to the rosters and our way of life i.e flying round the world in five days, sometimes three times per roster? Yes/no
Burn-outs and depressions would probably be a better indicator. How many LoL's does CLX have in year nowadays? Have the underlying diagnoses been related to the workload?
- This absenteeism is consistent with the dozens of drop offs of the last two years? Yes/no
Drop offs?
- Are ground people treated the same way or are only the pilots? Yes/no
I guess would answer no, if you are pilot.
- Could the same guy who made the infamous ‘wing wave’ have the ethical background and strength to take such actions? Yes/no
Good one. Was he not fired?
- If some people were taken unjustified sick leaves, would not make sense to invite them for a coffee without cookies session and try to find a different solution? It’s not better to give them unpaid leave, part time or early retirement, being cost neutral (of course)? It’s not better to invite them to leave, even? It’s not better to do this ratter than damaging the image and reputation or the company? Yes/no
Even better: complete prevention. How? IWBFIK.
I do not know. I believe that many have concluded that it is to put pressure on the unions to move on with the CWA. I doubt that even your current management is that masochistic.
- Is the loss of license rate consistent with the sick rate? Could be this related to the rosters and our way of life i.e flying round the world in five days, sometimes three times per roster? Yes/no
Burn-outs and depressions would probably be a better indicator. How many LoL's does CLX have in year nowadays? Have the underlying diagnoses been related to the workload?
- This absenteeism is consistent with the dozens of drop offs of the last two years? Yes/no
Drop offs?
- Are ground people treated the same way or are only the pilots? Yes/no
I guess would answer no, if you are pilot.
- Could the same guy who made the infamous ‘wing wave’ have the ethical background and strength to take such actions? Yes/no
Good one. Was he not fired?
- If some people were taken unjustified sick leaves, would not make sense to invite them for a coffee without cookies session and try to find a different solution? It’s not better to give them unpaid leave, part time or early retirement, being cost neutral (of course)? It’s not better to invite them to leave, even? It’s not better to do this ratter than damaging the image and reputation or the company? Yes/no
Even better: complete prevention. How? IWBFIK.
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Changing the subject slightly has anyone heard any more regarding recruitment?
I had an AMC assessment which was cancelled and now replaced with DLR.
I have a reasonable idea of what to expect but any information would be much appreciated.
Many thanks
I had an AMC assessment which was cancelled and now replaced with DLR.
I have a reasonable idea of what to expect but any information would be much appreciated.
Many thanks