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Old 16th May 2006, 15:54   #61 (permalink)
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Will Cargolux HR invite for an interview to FO allready rated on 744 but without EU passport and JAR licence?

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Old 16th May 2006, 23:37   #62 (permalink)
 
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I'm afraid they won't.
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Old 16th May 2006, 23:47   #63 (permalink)
 
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from www.cargolux.com:

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Other Requirements
- Total of 2500 hours flight time of which 1000 hours on jet aircraft.
- Or total of 3000 hours flight time of which 2000 hours on high performance turboprop or jet.
- Full JAR ATPL license with MCC qualification.
- Valid medical certificate
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Old 17th May 2006, 18:59   #64 (permalink)
 
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Are they recruiting at present, ore will they recruit in the near future?
(it does not seem so from their webportal)
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Old 20th May 2006, 11:40   #65 (permalink)
 
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I heard yesterday that recruitment is on going for the forseeable future, just keep trying and good luck.
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Old 23rd May 2006, 20:19   #66 (permalink)
 
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Assessment Days in Saarlouis

Yes, it's true.
Cargolux is hiring again.
Assessment days starting this week.
Good Luck to all the people that got the chance!
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Old 25th May 2006, 07:00   #67 (permalink)
 
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CV Salary

Does anybody know if your experience is counted for moneywise within Cargolux?
In some airlines your Flight Hours will be counted and you join the payscheme in higher position than somebody with low hours.
Thanks for the info!
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Old 25th May 2006, 09:24   #68 (permalink)
 
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Depends on type experience.
If you have less then 600 hours on type; you are in a certain scale.
After these 600 it depends if you have more or less than 3500 TT.
These are 2 diferent scales.
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Old 25th May 2006, 09:31   #69 (permalink)
 
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@ KLINK
Thanks for your response on my question.
The information you gave is exactly what I heard before.
As I understand it, you will be on kinf of Training Salary until you reach 600h on type,correct?
Now the most importatnt question:
Do all the people with more than 3500TT start in first scale First Officer or is there a certain factor applied on your flight hours?
E.g. you join CV with 10000TT but no ours on B744, you will be on Training Salary until you reach 600h on type. After that in some airlines your TT in Airline is calculated by factor e.g. 0.75 which would mean 10000TT equal 7500h that would equal like 10 years CV. Are you than put into that respective scale or do you start from the beginning no matter how many hours you have more than the 3500 you were talking about?
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Old 25th May 2006, 10:00   #70 (permalink)
 
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Total time is not really important, as I understand it, since CV take people with around 3000 hrs anyway, some of them much more.

During training (3 months), you get about €3000. After that, with less than 600 hrs on type you get about €4000, then with 600 hrs on type (and more than 3500TT) you get to the 'normal'/'senior' FO payscale, which is even much better. Plus allowances of course.

If you join with 10000TT on the B767, as far as I know, you will still follow the payscale described above, from year one.

Regarding selection, they hire a lot now. The selection in Saarloius is running even weekends according my source...
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Old 25th May 2006, 11:34   #71 (permalink)
 
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Your salary depends highly on your maritual status. If you are married, you will start with about 450 Eur. net more. For each child another approx. 100 Eur. net.
Trainees salery will start at your first training day at CV and will end with your supervision check ride. Accomodation during initial training has to be payed by yourself.
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Old 25th May 2006, 11:38   #72 (permalink)
 
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But gross is the same, no; whether you're married or single?
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Old 25th May 2006, 11:44   #73 (permalink)
 
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Yes, gross is the same for all. Only the Lux. tax index changes. If you start now, gross will be arround 3000 Eur. as a trainee. As a junior F/O approx. 4100 Eur + shift supplements + expenses...
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Old 26th May 2006, 16:55   #74 (permalink)
 
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Is it true that Cargolux made an agreement with Luxair to hire a lot of their pilots?
What are the conditions for these people?
The same as for anybody else? Pay-conditions are apparently not so bad at Luxair,are they?
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Old 26th May 2006, 19:28   #75 (permalink)
 
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  • no agreement in place yet
  • if its going to happen it will be surplus pilots
  • there's not a whole lot of pilots too many; perhaps 10? probably less
  • no conditions are known yet
  • I expect no special treatment; so yes, people crossing over take a financial step back for a couple years
  • Everyone has to pass the normal selection required for CV recruits
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Old 29th May 2006, 20:29   #76 (permalink)
 
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If you look at the website of CV their minimum requirements are different from those of interpersonal (who's doing the initial screening). If I recall it correctly Cargolux didn't mention high performance turboprop as relevant experience in the past few
years....
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Old 29th May 2006, 20:58   #77 (permalink)
 
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I think there was only a weight restriction; i.e. MTOW 21000 kgs or something like that.
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Old 29th May 2006, 22:15   #78 (permalink)
 
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Yes, 22000kgs was the lower limit, all jet though...now they publish on their site that 3000hrs including 2000hrs high performance turboprop is acceptable as well...but is it realistic?
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Old 30th May 2006, 13:06   #79 (permalink)
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Lightbulb minimum requirements...

Gentlemen,
I would like to point out that although Cargolux is hiring now and will be hiring for the foreseeable future it is very unlikely that you will get in with the minimum requirements only posted on either website.
Since the age-structure of the pilot group is not ideal - the majority of pilots (Cpts and F/Os) being in the range of 30 - 40 yrs of age - I could imagine that Cargolux is now looking specifically for young F/Os with lots of jet experience (i.e. B737 upwards or Airbus).
Good luck!

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Old 23rd June 2006, 20:20   #80 (permalink)
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2 LG 737 FO will start with CV in September.
No special conditions/deals/favors re. Psychotest etc.

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