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Old 12th Oct 2017, 15:43   #21 (permalink)
 
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attention do nothing cargo loader driver!!!

there is an office on the 9th floor in cathay city waiting for you!!
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Old 12th Oct 2017, 16:09   #22 (permalink)
 
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Actually. You're out of date. It's moved to the 3 rd floor, to be close to the troops
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Old 12th Oct 2017, 18:30   #23 (permalink)
 
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Were there Pax on board?
Was a headset connected?
If so, was it working? Tested?
If not - should it be?
Canít speak for AA but CX SOP headset must be connected during refuelling.
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Old 12th Oct 2017, 18:59   #24 (permalink)
 
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OK - connected. But not manned.
Is it a requirement to confirm it is working i.e. comms tested before boarding?
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Old 12th Oct 2017, 20:57   #25 (permalink)
 
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OK - connected. But not manned.
Is it a requirement to confirm it is working i.e. comms tested before boarding?
Normally connected on arrival and used, so I guess thatís a check! Not sure there is a specific to check it per se, but itís fairly obvious if itís not working. A lot of the time we will start refuel before the flt deck turn up so will be talking to no one anyway 😧 not that they listen 😉
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Old 13th Oct 2017, 03:24   #26 (permalink)
 
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Spanner’s, if there’s nobody in the cockpit the boarding can’t start anyhow.

Friend of mine recently had a Cargo Smoke Warning during refuelling/boarding. The ground headset turned out to be u/s when he attempted to call ground to find out what was happening.
Rather awkward - what would you do?
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Old 13th Oct 2017, 16:51   #27 (permalink)
 
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Spannerís, if thereís nobody in the cockpit the boarding canít start anyhow.

Friend of mine recently had a Cargo Smoke Warning during refuelling/boarding. The ground headset turned out to be u/s when he attempted to call ground to find out what was happening.
Rather awkward - what would you do?
Get up and check!
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Old 14th Oct 2017, 07:58   #28 (permalink)
 
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That’s what he did. He sent the FO to have a look.
But as he said afterward, no pilot likes the feeling of sitting in the cockpit staring at a potential raging fire in the belly hold while having no comms, twiddling his thumbs and waiting for somebody to come tell him WTF is happening!

Here’s a better solution.
Before boarding, make it SOP to positively check and confirm comms with the ramp via a working headset.
His company actually FORBID this because it ”wastes time” and might delay boarding!
Safety be damned. OTP is the first priority. All other priorities rescinded.
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