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Old 12th Aug 2017, 07:32   #21 (permalink)
 
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He may be a winging trainer, but at least he's not a management apologist cretin like yourself a370.
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Old 12th Aug 2017, 12:46   #22 (permalink)
 
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No need to wonder: Of course they did not. These are/were CX pilots, remember? One for all and all for...oh wait.
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Old 12th Aug 2017, 19:23   #23 (permalink)
 
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So which other TUs would have supported that had it been headed by the USAOA?

Or would that have been a separate "union" thing?

See the problem?
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Old 12th Aug 2017, 21:14   #24 (permalink)
 
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Sloppy due diligence and amateurish disregard of National requirements - exactly like the Paris debacle. And yet nobody is ever held to account. Don't the Swire Senior Execs in London ever intervene and at least find out why some of the Cathay leadership (sic) is basically not up to the task??
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Old 12th Aug 2017, 22:59   #25 (permalink)
 
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"Don't the Swire Senior Execs in London ever intervene and at least find out why some of the Cathay leadership (sic) is basically not up to the task?"

Of course not. That would be an admission of failure to perform due diligence on THEIR part. And we all know that they're never wrong.
On the subject of management incompetence, am I the only one who thinks it a little strange that 3 years AFTER being appointed a director, the DFO is off on a management course?
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Old 13th Aug 2017, 04:31   #26 (permalink)
 
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3 years AFTER being appointed a director, the DFO is off on a management course
Be it resolved that all funds available to the AOA be used to hire the best Hacker in HKG to make the above statement the DFO's "out of office " auto reply.
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Old 13th Aug 2017, 06:04   #27 (permalink)
 
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3 years AFTER being appointed a director, the DFO is off on a management course?
You mean she's actually on a management course? I thought that was just a cover story where they'd actually sent her away to get a CPL so that she meets the AOC requirement of the DFO being a pilot.....
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Old 13th Aug 2017, 06:19   #28 (permalink)
 
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She's probably getting trained up to be a Sim Instructor!
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Old 13th Aug 2017, 06:34   #29 (permalink)
 
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We've had non flying DFO's before this one (remember the zoologist?) - I think this management course thing is, at least, plausible.
It's not the event itself that leaves me aghast and incredulous, it's the sheer arrogance of this bunch. Neither embarrassed nor remotely apologetic, they are a law unto themselves.
I'd pay almost anything to witness some of these fools and charlatans being led away in cuffs.
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Old 14th Aug 2017, 03:37   #30 (permalink)
 
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Pants, you're not counting RH as a flying DFO are you? He was the definition of a Swire sock puppet
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Old 14th Aug 2017, 09:38   #31 (permalink)
 
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Shes on her way out.
This will be the start of large eruptions similar to '99 .Nothing is out of bounds for this lot.
Cos '17 in your mailbox Sept /Oct.
You will need a week minimum of stress leave to contemplate if your a victim.Prepare for the pineapple ladies and gents
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Old 14th Aug 2017, 10:08   #32 (permalink)
 
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I'm shaking in my boots! Please spare me!
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Old 14th Aug 2017, 10:20   #33 (permalink)
 
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Bases are done anyway. They were done the day the first C scaler showed up.
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Old 15th Aug 2017, 02:13   #34 (permalink)
 
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^^^^
Sad but true.

Do they still tell them they can get a base?
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Old 15th Aug 2017, 02:23   #35 (permalink)
 
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Pretty well defines the outrageous travesty that CX has become. They provide a description of an airline/career, that upon arriving in HK you soon find was a fictional construct that bears no relation to reality. Examples:

1) basings - in name only. in reality they stopped years ago
2) childs education - they don't mention the astronomical debenture costs to get your child a place in a proper school
3) staff travel - they don't tell you that it's almost inaccessible, and the cost is prohibitive for most of the staff. Your FOC's are a cynical joke, and worthless
4) career progression - constantly changing the goal posts, thereby making any planning a guessing game at best
5) medical care - constantly reducing the benefits to the point that most pilots are having to find their own coverage
6) housing - inflationary housing costs with no increase result in marginal housing expectations in the most expensive city in the world (but our managers live lie kings...and the odd queen)
7) retirement - non-existant, as you will barely be able to pay your bills each month, especially if married and/or have children.

So...continue to join this wonderful little unicorn of an airline called CX, and be the latest to find out that you joined a completely different company than the one you thought you were joining.
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Old 15th Aug 2017, 05:01   #36 (permalink)
 
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The best bit, CX put shiny jets at #1 and no one reads the rest
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Old 15th Aug 2017, 06:16   #37 (permalink)
 
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Resolve 7th freedom issues, basings Peter Forsyth, Monash University Oct 2008

CX mismanagement seem unable to play to their strengths, assumes they see them.

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Old 15th Aug 2017, 17:44   #38 (permalink)
 
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Resolve 7th freedom issues, basings Peter Forsyth, Monash University Oct 2008

CX mismanagement seem unable to play to their strengths, assumes they see them.

The problem with letting anyone fly anywhere they want is that we would soon be on Sudan terms living in our airplanes. Just like many of the poor saps in the maritime industry. No thanks. Not all markets are the same.
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