Still working G days!

[Not Hiding]

I thought, after all this time, it had finally been made clear that working G days is not in the collective best interest.

But... it seems someone has decided to do a HKG-EWR-HKG right in the middle of his block of 6 Gs, probably earning quite a bit of EFP, since it was at the end of July.

Not thinking of anyone but himself, his personal enrichment comes at the expense of one guy being called out from reserve a day early to start his pattern and another guy being called out from reserve two days early to start his pattern.

When will these selfish people learn?

[corrigin]

If you are 100% sure of this, why not send your info to the AOA for investigation?

[SloppyJoe]

Sounds like it may be a proffer.

[TurningFinalRWY36]

Could be a duty/G day swap as well. How did you confirm your accusations. If this was recently Im sure people could figure out who this was with the info provided so be careful with unsubstantiated claims

[Avinthenews]

Apparently some more senior crew are now requesting G days and or flights so they can then accept proffers and make $$$ on the side, others are requesting regional flying and then selling them to junior crew (JFOs) desperate for sectors so they can pass their QL.

Got to love an airline that gets "colleagues" to profit off one another, this place is toxic.

Yes STW I would leave if it wasn't for seniority and starting a career from the bottom again.

[Not Hiding]

So if one can only look at published rosters and flown rosters and not the multitude of changes which may have happened in between, one can never determine if someone has actually volunteered to work a G day?

[Avinthenews]

Originally Posted by Not Hiding

So if one can only look at published rosters and flown rosters and not the multitude of changes which may have happened in between, one can never determine if someone has actually volunteered to work a G day?

Guess you could contact the guy/girl who had the flight on the published roster and ask what they did with it.

[Not Hiding]

Here is MY explanation. Might there be another?

A HKG pilot with a bunch of G days is called and asked to fly a long haul. He agrees but it makes his next long haul not legal because he'd not have enough rest after returning from the long haul he's doing on his Gs.

So, crew control grabs a based guy and sends him on the first sector of the long haul originally rostered for the guy who just did the other long haul on his Gs. Now, crew control needs someone to fly back to HKG.

So, crew control grabs a based guy, with reserve before his long haul, and takes him to fly the return sector to HKG. Now, crew control needs someone to replace him.

So, crew control grabs another based guy, with two days of reserve before his long haul, to replace the other based guy who was just called a day early from his rostered long haul.

Anyone have any other explanations?

[Roger Greendeck]

The CC that applies to G days is about withdrawing goodwill from the Company and has nothing to do with who would otherwise get called off reserve. There are plenty of reasons why someone could have been rostered G days and end up flying, proffer or swap being the obvious ones. The AOA has a mechanism for investigating breaches. If you think that's occurred pass it to them. Raising it on an anonymous public forum is poor form.

[betpump5]

No no no. I'm with the OP here in his guilty until proven innocent post. I have taken numerous proffers in the past few years and have never seen my pattern flagged on pprune as a possible violation of CC. I'm not even going to bother doing a search for EWR patterns to see who the person is or come to my own conclusion as to whether its a violation.

What I will say is that I welcome this anonymous posting from time to time. It keeps people on their toes and makes people think twice before they accept something that goes against the spirit of CC. Guys need to know that there are people out their watching for things like this.

In terms of sending details to AOA? Don't make me spit my porridge over my PC.

[betpump5]

Don't quite get ur question there Rod. The swaps / proffers are OK when the system returns an Approved message....or am I missing a Point here.

[a370]

[Yes STW I would leave if it wasn't for seniority and starting a career from the bottom again.[/QUOTE]

AV, jeeeze , You are where you are because of seniority protecting you, your family and your future. Plenty of DEC or DEFO jobs around so please spare us the back to the coalface sanctimony.

Try EK , see how much overtime or G days they get.
Now , move on and stop sounding all hoity toity. LOL .

[Basil]

If a pilot wants to work a G day then that's a personal choice.
You aren't in W Europe or N America and you don't have a union, you never had a union and you never will have a union.
Hate postings reduce flight safety.
You knew what you were joining; well I did because I was given a briefing on who the good guys and cnuts were before I arrived. Y'all sound like immigrants who come to a country and then want it to be like the place they just left.

[betpump5]

If a pilot wants to work a G day then that's a personal choice.

Proffer/ swaps? Yeah.

Due to company mismanagement of resources (A/C and crew), sickness due to rostering to limits? NEVER!! That includes periods of non Non-CC and Typhoon 8 and above.

[Trafalgar]

a370. I guess I have to chase you down on every thread. You are a cretin, and obvious management plant. That not being bad enough apparently, you made an appalling comment regarding our recently departed colleague. Sucks to be you, but i'm sure you will be the last one to figure that out.

[Avinthenews]

Originally Posted by a370

You are where you are because of seniority protecting you, your family and your future. Plenty of DEC or DEFO jobs around so please spare us the back to the coalface sanctimony.

So let me get this straight if everyone is where they are because of seniority by your logic then without it no one would be at CX? That's a brilliant conclusion. oh and LOL because I'm a 10 year old.