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Old 13th Jul 2017, 10:10   #1 (permalink)
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Crew Complement

At least no more fighting for sectors.
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Old 13th Jul 2017, 10:17   #2 (permalink)
 
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You have to give it to the Spin Doctors that work with these clowns like the GMO.

Who is he trying to fool with his "3 pilots is the industry standard to/from Europe".

Yes MH, CN and 2 FOs. Muppet
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Old 13th Jul 2017, 10:47   #3 (permalink)
 
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4 pilots is the standard to North America. 2 CN's and 2 FO's.
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Old 13th Jul 2017, 11:09   #4 (permalink)
 
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And this fits into CX's 'Safety is our Number 1 Priority'
how exactly?
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Old 13th Jul 2017, 11:28   #5 (permalink)
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And this fits into CX's 'Safety is our Number 1 Priority'
how exactly?
It's no longer about "safety is our no.1 priority" but all about "managing safety". Essentially saying that with every new policy,
Ie fuel policy, crew Complement, etc, they will maximize profit at the expense of safety.
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Old 13th Jul 2017, 11:46   #6 (permalink)
 
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Yeah Mark, just tell us that it is a good idea as there will be less fighting for sectors and all will be good. Great idea.

How did they get you to attach your name to that drivel?
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Old 13th Jul 2017, 11:50   #7 (permalink)
 
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How did they get you to attach your name to that drivel?
$$$$

You had to ask....
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Old 13th Jul 2017, 13:04   #8 (permalink)
 
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ASRFs ASRFs ASRFs. They're auditable and evidence in your favour.
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Old 13th Jul 2017, 13:20   #9 (permalink)
 
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Ultimately the HKCAD will be held accountable. That's what worries me, muppets in charge of MH types, must be some sort of backroom deal going on.
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Old 13th Jul 2017, 13:21   #10 (permalink)
 
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Hull Loss incoming....
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Old 13th Jul 2017, 14:11   #11 (permalink)
 
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Is there no end to this .... ?!


I would have loved to be a fly on the wall when they sat in a big "Asian circle" and talked each other into this being a good idea/ an acceptable risk/ a cost justified by the saving. There is no way a single person signed this off.


It is not the individual cut, it is the sum of the cuts that will cause the problem. So don't expect the law of action and consequence to apply ..... but it will.


It makes a mockery of all the bullshit rhetoric they feed us. What little respect I had left for the L3-drivers, has pretty much gone.
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Old 13th Jul 2017, 15:04   #12 (permalink)
 
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I wonder why folks think only a single hull loss will occur?
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Old 13th Jul 2017, 15:47   #13 (permalink)
 
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Fiddling while Rome burns...
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Old 13th Jul 2017, 16:00   #14 (permalink)
 
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Can someone explain how an RQ flying with an SO and then a Capt flying with an SO is a safety hazard? Of course we presume that both the FO and the Capt don't feel like they are flying single pilot and can't take controlled rest when they do this. Having said that...not every SO is as useless as some may otherwise think. Don't get offended...just looking for a bit of substance to the hull loss argument.
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Old 13th Jul 2017, 16:12   #15 (permalink)
 
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Ah, well then, that's reassuring: "not every SO is as useless as some may otherwise think" !
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Old 13th Jul 2017, 16:13   #16 (permalink)
 
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I bet next step will be creation of RQ'SO, follow by (Base/Senior) Training SO
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Old 13th Jul 2017, 16:15   #17 (permalink)
 
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tick, tock, tick, tock...
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Old 13th Jul 2017, 16:21   #18 (permalink)
 
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Well I hear some are better than others...Good luck with those DEFOs.
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Old 13th Jul 2017, 16:24   #19 (permalink)
 
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Because at the end of every single flight that is operated with this crew complement, one of the two sitting in the seat at the end will for the most part have been awake for the whole of their body clock night time .....presumably the FO unless the Captain has been particularly benevolent with the rest or they are from different base areas. And instead of being able to slope off for forty winks and let a well rested FO take over they'll have to sit there for the landing. Hull loss aside, this is far more of a threat to flight safety than 3 crew ever was....at least with 3 crew, the 2 in the seats for the last bit should have had a modicum of rest.
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Old 13th Jul 2017, 16:29   #20 (permalink)
 
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Point taken..thanks for clarifying.
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