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Old 15th Jun 2017, 22:46
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I see that CX170 due out of Perth Western Australia on June 14th was 20 hrs late .
That was a very long delay so what kind of " technical " problem would cause such a delay?
Just curious as I have not seen many delays as long as this for quite a while.
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Old 15th Jun 2017, 23:16
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Any "technical" issue requiring a component flown in on the next HKG - PER sector would do it. (presuming it needed a component change)

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One would think that most A330 components could be accessed through Qantas who have quite a few of this type!
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Unless of course it was engine related. QF A330s use the GE CF6 whereas CX's aircraft have RR Trent 700.
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"Have not seen many delays as long as this for quite a while"

Obviously not watching our flights too much then.........
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Originally Posted by RodH
I see that CX170 due out of Perth Western Australia on June 14th was 20 hrs late .
That was a very long delay so what kind of " technical " problem would cause such a delay?
Just curious as I have not seen many delays as long as this for quite a while.
Its part of new strategy CX are experimenting with. Its called "Time to Win", I believe. Just needs tweaking a little. In fact if you have access to "The Journey" (latest version) you can crosscheck on page 36 just how many boxes they've ticked so far.
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Looks like the OTP will be less than perfect.

Its a good thing this is just an isolated event.
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An isolated event. Along with CX343 with 16 hours delay due to A50 going tech.
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Old 17th Jun 2017, 15:38
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An isolated event. Along with CX343 with 16 hours delay due to A50 going tech.
The A50 didn't go 'tech' it was an engineering manpower problem that caused the initial delay and then the replacement aircraft suffered an issue on landing that caused a further delay due to statutory inspections.
Facts... they make the difference.
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Old 18th Jun 2017, 01:29
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Isn't an aircraft not being available because it needs inspections, repairs or paperwork a technical delay?
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Old 18th Jun 2017, 01:39
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Nope, it would have needed to have happened after the aircraft was released for flight.

Normal maintenance inspections be it a daily check, weekly, monthly, or ad hoc required inspections are supposed to be planned on ground time between flights. What happens however is the Wx delays we have had skew the flight schedules that much the time slots no longer line up, however the work still needs to be performed.

The aircraft could be fully serviceable however the required inspections still need to be performed.
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Hmmm..

I have had countless delays for technical "issues", mechanical and paperwork, for aircraft that haven't been released for flight. Do you mean that is how Engineering classify a technical delay?
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This thread proves that PPRUNE is now the main provider of 'fake news'. Seriously, a normal tech delay is reason for a thread ? It's not like we have real problems that need solving
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Old 18th Jun 2017, 05:17
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Originally Posted by mr did
I have had countless delays for technical "issues", mechanical and paperwork, for aircraft that haven't been released for flight. Do you mean that is how Engineering classify a technical delay?
No one really takes notice of what flight crew put down as a delay, they don't have the full picture. You see the aircraft not signed out, technical delay, cargo door open, cargo loading, passenger door open, passenger handeling. All you see is the what, you are unaware of the why.

You can say well the aircraft was not signed out, engineering could turn around and say it was scheduled for a check but arrived back late. It is an interconnected series of events.

In the finger pointing session when all departments come together to go through every flight then things come out in the wash. The timing schedule has a number of assumptions built in, a jet that has been released for flight is one of them.
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I find the code ZF is most useful for any and all delays.
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Get a grip!! Who gives a sh-t?
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Old 18th Jun 2017, 15:16
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The Z stands for zero.
But if you can't work out what the F stands for, then you're obviously still young and keen. Good for you, I'm glad someone is.
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Pity that 'DILLIGAF' is too long to fit.
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