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Old 14th May 2017, 06:07
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That's because most are FOs or captains now.
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Old 14th May 2017, 08:01
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Anotherday

"I go to work with people who are hell bent on seeing this company failing. They would relish it, "

Guess you work on the 9th Floor
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Old 15th May 2017, 06:47
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I can say that never in any Airline I've worked have any Pilots ever said or casually hinted they would like the Airline to fail.
What rubbish.
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Old 15th May 2017, 14:00
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I don't think anyone here wants this place to fail -- very much the opposite.

I do see a very high level of frustration in seeing what was a once great place making very bad decisions at the workers' expense--while continuing to ignore suggestions which can offer hope of recovery. Effectively betting poorly at the track (with some questions as to who actually owns the track) and then expecting folks who actually do things to sacrifice while the powers that be continue their sprees unabated and unchanged (save a few slogans). Folks who work here have a vested interest in success, but remain powerless to help steer the ship away from the icebergs. Most have invested significant portions of their life toward helping the place win only to see such efforts became but a fart in a hurricane compared to what damage those charged to steer the boat can do.
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Old 15th May 2017, 16:37
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Anotherday,
Imagine the Boeing workers finding their duties had changed, their days off had changed, their contractual benefits had changed and they were told to work longer every time they went to work.
Bet they'd be some big dents!!!
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Old 15th May 2017, 22:15
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Originally Posted by Fac6
You mistake employees wanting certain Directors and Managers to fall as opposed to the airline. Most I fly with want the airline to flourish, they just want a purging of the Management. Totally different things.
I don't even want that. I simply want said directors and managers to pull their collective heads out and find the obvious cost savings via win-win situations first. Why cut ARAPA when many will gladly leave for bases? Why spend millions on a new Jeppessen CMP and then not turn it on the way it is designed to run? Why have a sickness management crackdown when guys will happily show up for work with a reasonable amount of roster control and (on bases) commutable A days. The low hanging fruit is being skipped. Wake up and smell the 21st century!!!
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Old 15th May 2017, 22:46
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cxorcist. I think the very questions you ask, and the inexplicable reason why they don't do that should give you the self-evident answers. The management is on a mission to crush our profession. If you can recognise that, then the resolve to resist and agitate against their machinations becomes easier to accept. It's time to fight, not time to 'win'.
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Old 16th May 2017, 02:16
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Anotherday. What exactly is your agenda? Please, expound.
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Old 16th May 2017, 03:19
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I don't think he has an agenda, just a firm grip on the reality of how this company deals with labor.
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