British Airways pilot recruitment Hong Kong 16 April
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Bottom line, how many days off before and/or after can BA crew expect when rostered a 3 crew HKG trip?
And while we here, how many roster changes do you get on average per month?
And while we here, how many roster changes do you get on average per month?
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Does British Airways have any real command training for potential capts? If so what is the failure rate?
Or does it have some sort of 'drag the life out of you for months and fail you on the last day only to get zero training to try it all again 12 months later?'
Or does it have some sort of 'drag the life out of you for months and fail you on the last day only to get zero training to try it all again 12 months later?'
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To some extent nights off before/after is a "that depends" due to a combination of Bidline Rules and EASA. It's usually 3 local nights (i.e. two clear days) before/after, but under EASA the days off before might be controlled by the previous duty (e.g. a SIN/SYD/SIN will mean (I think) 4 days off before).
Nowadays you shouldn't get many roster changes (certainly in Long Haul). It normally now only happens if you lose a rostered trip due to external circumstances ( ATC strike, weather), in which case, roughly speaking, the company have the option of dropping another trip into the days that were occupied by the cancelled trip.
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You'll get a block of formal PICUS sectors a few month before the course, there's also a short ground course (mainly legal stuff). The length of the formal command course (sims and line sectors) depends on whether you are doing a Right to Left on type or a Command conversion (e.g. 747 to A320). Just to give you some idea when I went Right to Left a few years back, on Longhaul, it was 6 sims and 10 line sectors, including the 2 sector final check.
There are failures, can't give a rate off the top of my head but it's not astronomic.
If you do fail it is possible you may not automatically have the chance of another go (and I'd say certainly not within a year), course failures are handled by a formal process and each case is different.
To some extent nights off before/after is a "that depends" due to a combination of Bidline Rules and EASA. It's usually 3 local nights (i.e. two clear days) before/after, but under EASA the days off before might be controlled by the previous duty (e.g. a SIN/SYD/SIN will mean (I think) 4 days off before).
Nowadays you shouldn't get many roster changes (certainly in Long Haul). It normally now only happens if you lose a rostered trip due to external circumstances ( ATC strike, weather), in which case, roughly speaking, the company have the option of dropping another trip into the days that were occupied by the cancelled trip.
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Does British Airways have any real command training for potential capts?
There are failures, can't give a rate off the top of my head but it's not astronomic.
If you do fail it is possible you may not automatically have the chance of another go (and I'd say certainly not within a year), course failures are handled by a formal process and each case is different.
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"You go"
"No, you go"
"Ok, you first"
"Look, it's a no brainer, you have to go"
" Yes, true. You really should join them, they are so much better."
" Agree. The roster is perfect, you have to go."
"OK, listen, this is a chance-of-a-lifetime. If you don't join I can't help you."
" Could not agree more. When do you join?"
" I really consider it. But, mate, you need to go now"
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"No, you go"
"Ok, you first"
"Look, it's a no brainer, you have to go"
" Yes, true. You really should join them, they are so much better."
" Agree. The roster is perfect, you have to go."
"OK, listen, this is a chance-of-a-lifetime. If you don't join I can't help you."
" Could not agree more. When do you join?"
" I really consider it. But, mate, you need to go now"
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Not too different from my CX course then! Approx 10 sims incl lofts, PC etc. 40 odd sectors over 3 months on a plane that I had been flying from the RHS for over 10 years!!
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If you have a below CAP Tripline post Stage 1 then if you are below CAP -15 you will have to bid at stage 2 to get more work, if you are above CAP -15 and you have banked hours to cover the shortfall you have a choice - either bid for more work or sit back, do nothing and hope etc......
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Hilarious that anyone thinks there would be "management name takers" at such an event.
1. They don't care (you're not as important as you think)
2. They don't have the time to waste on such a pointless excercise.
3. I doubt any of them could match names to faces of even 5% of our F/Os & S/Os.
The only people who might care about a large number of resignations are the DFO & her advisors/negotiators as it's pretty clear these are the people responsible for driving down morale and pissing the pilots off over the last year or two.
1. They don't care (you're not as important as you think)
2. They don't have the time to waste on such a pointless excercise.
3. I doubt any of them could match names to faces of even 5% of our F/Os & S/Os.
The only people who might care about a large number of resignations are the DFO & her advisors/negotiators as it's pretty clear these are the people responsible for driving down morale and pissing the pilots off over the last year or two.
Why shouldn't you explore other employers? Cathay don't own you - it's got nothing to do with them what you investigate in your own time.
If they bother taking your name (they won't) - who cares??
If they bother taking your name (they won't) - who cares??
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I do love these Alice in Wonderland fairytales.Hat police lurking in the shadows, Cathay Drones being flown to track your movements when you have called in sick, closing down an airline and putting tens of thousands of employees out of work because 2000 pilots go on strike.
What has happened to you all! Grow a pair and stop believing in jackanory BS.
What has happened to you all! Grow a pair and stop believing in jackanory BS.
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....don't you worry your pretty little heads. Let's just say that BA is VERY happy with the turnout, and the coming months will make that quite apparent to CX management. 
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You are dreaming of you think BA will take more than a token few CX guys. Big airlines don't poach from each other excessively. The Swire boys and the BA boys all went to the same schools and belong to the same clubs.....they look out for each other's business. Call it a gentleman's agreement.
Forgive me - I know gentleman isn't really the word to use when we talk about our bosses..but that's another story.
Forgive me - I know gentleman isn't really the word to use when we talk about our bosses..but that's another story.