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Old 19th Sep 2015, 15:24
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KA 330 Penang

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Old 19th Sep 2015, 15:44
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Hard Landing

Heard it from a fellow KA pilot. 3-pt landing registered nearly 3G's (prob not that high). Saw photos of rivets popped on engine/wing pylon. Got photos from a colleague who parked next to it and had a closer look. Apparently skipper sent back immediately to HK to explain. All this is hearsay but I'm sure the facts can be corroborated in due time.

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Originally Posted by alohajec
Heard it from a fellow KA pilot. 3-pt landing registered nearly 3G's (prob not that high). Saw photos of rivets popped on engine/wing pylon. Got photos from a colleague who parked next to it and had a closer look. Apparently skipper sent back immediately to HK to explain. All this is hearsay but I'm sure the facts can be corroborated in due time.

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Favourite sky God question-is the skipper expat or local?
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Old 20th Sep 2015, 05:12
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Believe it was a three point landing that was closer to 2G. Either way its not flying anytime soon.
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Sometimes it sucks to be PIC

Dunno about that but heard the F/O was PF.

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Old 20th Sep 2015, 09:56
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Landing gear change I heard.
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Old 20th Sep 2015, 13:21
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I don't know how much experience, or what the background of the FO was, but I can hazard a guess...

Only a matter of time before this sort of thing starts happening across the road.
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Old 20th Sep 2015, 19:49
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The true cost of an Mpl becomes apparant?
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Old 21st Sep 2015, 02:48
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Here's the AVHerald report:

Accident: Dragon A333 at Penang on Sep 16th 2015, hard landing

B-HLK, 23 years old, is one of the oldest A330s around. In fact, it was the second A330 prototype.
Not worth the repairs. Chances are it will end up as a Kwey Teow restaurant near the airport now.

RIP, Lima Kilo...
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Old 21st Sep 2015, 03:42
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Heard that a 777-200 is grounded in Narita with perhaps terminal fatigue damage. Apparently a two-foot crack in a wing? Anyone with any facts? What led to the damage?

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Old 21st Sep 2015, 07:04
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A330 was 2.8G I'm told.
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Old 21st Sep 2015, 08:27
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MPL on A330?
Don't think so.
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Old 21st Sep 2015, 09:53
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Just under 2.9 G . The real issue of course was the landing weight. Airbus are still investigating. Expect to be ferry fly to hk and gear replaced at the least.

FO is female, HK chinese.
Capt is Expat, senior guy

FO did landing. They got huge sink rate as possibly manual flying with thrust idlearound 100 feet. Capt tried to recover but the thing hit nosewheel first.

Fate of both crew TBD. Previous history would sugest displinary action for the Capt, and the FO to return to line, scott free.

Suspect the money saved on hiring this young lady has gone the way of the dodo.
Over the land of the morning calm, I had an expat f/o with thousands of hours. Same thing with him as PF high sink rate below 100feet RA; he disregarded my order to go around. I took over, ToGAed, firewalled the thrust levers and climbed away. We did touched down with a slight thud before climbing away. Long debrief but No.1 claimed that he was too focussed on aiming for the spot.

I guessed this lady f/o had less experience, so it can happen to an f/o with more than the required command hours. Skippers can no longer afford be macho and take their eyes off the ball during f/o's landing anymore.
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Old 21st Sep 2015, 10:02
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We have never been able to relax whilst letting any FO land an Airbus.......

On the mighty 777 I could assist as required at anytime, not on the plastic fantastic...

That and throttles that don't move......

Absolute genius Airbus, really...
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Old 21st Sep 2015, 10:41
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ACMS...that is exactly what the Asiana pilots were thinking in San Fran
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Yes and Southwest and LGA too. I bet those were glad of the mechanically linked yokes. But, I seem to recall the nose wheel ended up in the avionics bay, no?
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So does that make a first for KA- an MPL induced hull loss? Creative accounting may even show it as a profitable exercise.
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In that case both Pilots were out to lunch and nothing was going to fix that......
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Old 21st Sep 2015, 15:39
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I guessed this lady f/o had less experience, so it can happen to an f/o with more than the required command hours. Skippers can no longer afford be macho and take their eyes off the ball during f/o's landing anymore.
The hardest landing I've ever witnessed occurred when I was in the right seat with a fairly senior Captain flying (or not flying for that last 100ft). Just saying...
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Originally Posted by 777300ER
The hardest landing I've ever witnessed occurred when I was in the right seat with a fairly senior Captain flying (or not flying for that last 100ft). Just saying...
Mine was with the chief pilot on type. Couldn't see the instruments momentarily. Second worst unstable approach after a screwed up instrument approach was with a different chief pilot on a different type. The former chief pilot on that type had the worst.

Anyways....back to subject.
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