In the interests of the life expectancy of myself and my family we made the decision some time ago to not stay in Hong Kong. Been thinking of a few options over the last year and we have decided that commuting from Thailand seems like a good one. Any advice regarding commuting/living in Thailand, most probably the Phuket area, would be much appreciated. I have lived in and around Asia for a long time, mostly in Indonesia, so I am fairly happy that I can handle the cultural issues that such a move entails. I am mostly concerned about visas and how easy it is for foreigners to live there. Once again, thanks in advance.
Life expectancy will reduce if you move to Thailand. Acceptable if you plan to stay and give them all your dosh but be warned not to try to initiate any business as you will find that they don't tend to like that! Watch out, money has power over law !! As for Phuket, probably as expensive as HKG. Malaysia maybe ??
Sanook I actually lived in Indonesia for awhile, so am pretty aware of the corruption that occurs in third world countries like Thailand. I actually never had much of a problem with it, except at the petty scale, with the likes of traffic cops etc.
Not ruling Malaysia out either, but we have dogs and the Malaysian muslims don't seem to treat them too well. Mrs Loiter doesn't like that. I would go back to Indo, probably Bali as the crime seems to be getting a little out of control in Jakarta, but we want to keep our options open as most of my Indo friends advise me to stay away until at least after the election in 2012.
Visas for your family will be a potentially massive hurdle to overcome and unless you are prepared for monthly visa runs (via air borders) or fortnightly visa runs (via land borders) it is very much a non starter.
Living here without either a work permit or some form of non tourist visa (retirement etc) is a nightmare.
Not ruling Malaysia out either, but we have dogs and the Malaysian muslims don't seem to treat them too well.
Always a lateral way around it - go live somewhere like Petaling Jaya KL and pick an area predominantly Chinese (generally slightly upmarket....). Easiest way is to look for streets that have mostly Hondas, Toyotas, Mercs, etc parked there.
In any case - I have never found the Malay muslins to be anything other than courteous and respectful. But my "opinion only" is most people in Malaysia are very scared of dogs - especially ones that have a good bark and jump at the driveway gate when someone walks past. When we visit KL, myself and my young kids (I must be a very bad role model) love winding up the dogs when we go out for a breakfast roti.......drives my Mrs up the wall!!
Ad Posse Ad Esse, I guess I am assuming compact rosters will continue as they have been. Maybe I am not understanding the new system, but didn't we start using this new FRMS in Sept and that is the reason compact rosters may stop, or is it still running in the background?
ZFT, Visas sound very much like Indo where it can be a royal pain in the bum.
An3_bolt, Do you have any specific info concerning visas in Malaysia or are you there on a work permit?
Thailand a little 'wild' consider Png.Very un Bumi, cosmopolitian,high standard of living and good school,mainly chinese,Gragos. so dogs no Beer,prob.Mal got ,Silver Hair fst trk migration scheme.Ringgt ex good.
Hi Loiter, I have friends, not involved in aviation who have very recently moved to Phuket, and they love it. Big house at a fraction of here, clean air etc etc, I'm not going to try sell you on it. However, this may interest you, their kids are 6 and 4, and are going to the International school there in Phuket. They, the parents, are on the back of the kids schooling visa....something to look into perhaps.
NG, Visa Thailand: you're correct with education + guardian visa = 12mths renewable. 500k THB on bank deposit I think. If over 50yrs [after the kids leave skool] can do retirement visa - same same but different! [800K THBish] Go to thaivisa.com or teakdoor.com for better "qualified" answers than you can get here. Dogs: some areas of Phuket are inhabited by Muslims, a few of whom may not take too kindly to your K9's...
Here is a genius idea; if you dislike Hong Kong so very much why don't you just go back home. That way you can stop degrading everybody else's conditions for you own selfish gain. Hard to argue for housing allowance when guys don't even live in Hong Kong huh? Same goes for roster/fatigue issues when you are falling over yourselves to do W patterns.