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Old 17th Jun 2010, 05:20   #1 (permalink)
 
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Hong Kong Airlines interview 22nd

Hi Guys,


Anyone going for the 22nd June interview with HKA for the B738 fleet?Anyone with any idea on the interview?Things to prepare etc.Thank you
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Old 17th Jun 2010, 07:39   #2 (permalink)
 
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hehe, this will be fun to watch
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Old 17th Jun 2010, 08:50   #3 (permalink)
 
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C'mon Dan, it's a perfectly innocent question from a mentally challenged person who obviously cannot read, or thinks 1000 posts against HKA is just sour grapes.

BMWM5, if you save evry single cent you earn at HKA for 20 years, and live with 5 other HKA refugees, you will be able to afford your username.
Good luck

Oh, how rude of me, to answer your question :
No need to prepare, they will be so surprised that you actually showed for the interview ( knowing the Ts and Cs ) that they will forget to ask you the 3 questions they found in the 737 FCOM the previous night. Just make sure that any " penmanship " in the log book is not too obvious, things like a 28 year old with 20,000 TRE on 747 they might check up on.
Tip: If you worked for the SIN air force, flying loose formation in a Marchetti is counted as multi engine command time > 30,000kg, I know this because management log it that way.

Cheers
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Old 30th Jun 2010, 05:04   #4 (permalink)
 
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Employing A330 Captain?

Hi, is HKA employing Direct Entry Captain for A330 fleet? Where can we find the details? Many thanks!
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Old 30th Jun 2010, 11:21   #5 (permalink)
 
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They are employing 330 Dec's. Expect to go slowly or quickly backwards financially depending on what your living standard expectations are.
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Old 11th Aug 2011, 06:14   #6 (permalink)
 
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Interview

Hi Guys,

Does anyone have any info on the HKA interview...panel?....sim...etc
Many thanks
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Old 12th Aug 2011, 12:20   #7 (permalink)
 
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Pay rise?

Heard a whisper that there has been a payrise at HKA.

True/BS?

Any info?
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Old 9th Nov 2011, 11:44   #8 (permalink)
 
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Have an interview coming up with HKA. Anyone knows what I can expect?
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Old 9th Nov 2011, 13:39   #9 (permalink)

 
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Mostly just a feeling of worthlessness for having to attend such a interview, and then shame at that this is the best you can do.

Mostly shame I would think
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Old 10th Nov 2011, 14:02   #10 (permalink)
 
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HI Guys,

I would also be interested to hear about HKA T's n C's .

I heard there was a payrise in Oct, cant elaborate on much more as I dont have first hand knowledge.

Perhaps someone can provide more details.
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Old 12th Nov 2011, 10:10   #11 (permalink)
 
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With the pay rise, they will be able to go higher in their buildings in Tung Chung, but not enough to look for a new place out of that neighborhood.
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Old 24th Nov 2011, 23:35   #12 (permalink)
 
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HKA interview

Dear all
please send me all information you have about the Hongkong airlines interview i have one next month and i really don't know what they goona ask me so please advise me and pm me to my email (captain_adel@hotmail.com)
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Old 26th Nov 2011, 12:56   #13 (permalink)
 
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t and c's

Hey Fooey and AA
I would love your input on who I should apply for that is hiring in Hong Kong right now. Please dont say Cathay, ive seen their new package and accepting that would make me feel worthless and mostly shame.
the fact of the matter is that there isnt much out there anymore unless you fancy the desert. I dont. My home country is rubbish for pilots.
So enlighten me please, what companies do you know of that hire expats, treat them well and pay them well, but are not in countries covered in sand.
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Old 26th Nov 2011, 16:47   #14 (permalink)

 
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I'm not a jobs agency, but the answer, surprisingly
is NOT HKA. You won't be able to afford to eat
on what they offer.
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Old 27th Nov 2011, 11:29   #15 (permalink)
 
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"I'm not a job agency"
Pretty weak mate. You cant even give me one suggestion. Are you capitulating that maybe now hka actually as sad as it may seem has the best offer going of any of the airlines in hong kong. hard to believe isn't it.
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Old 27th Nov 2011, 14:26   #16 (permalink)


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Can't handle these guys anymore.

AAIGUY & HKFOOEY, you should be ashamed of yourselves and now you both want to bring down the name of Dragonair as well, making us all look like schmucks.

It's time you give it up...your posts on this & the other thread are pathetic. To even contemplate saying about an air crash is beyond me.

You say that HKA will put one in...let's look at the facts:

Wasn't it our 320 going into HKT that exceeded all stable approach criteria, descent rates, speeds, etc...finally only getting back to Vapp over the fence?

Wasn't it one of our 330's over the bay on the way to India that nearly lost complete control?

Wasn't it a CX 747 that had no autopilot engaged on approach and was heading towards Lantau?

Be careful what you wish for!


You talk about professionals, yet let's look at your history AAI:

Played the politician at HKE and had one of the senior Flt Ops shoved out (non-Singa too)...You 'can' all the Singaporeans, yet you pushed what you are saying should be your ally?

As for Fooey:

The angriest pilot on Earth! Abuses his own work mates on the DPA forum, what an upstanding work colleague. Any wonder we tagged you as the most obvious person NEVER to get a cmd at KA huh

Let's look at more facts (figures, bits & pieces supplied by a buddy who is at HKA - and yeah I have asked intensely, as I see it as an option to KA...I want a command while I'm still breathing, compared to promises of aircraft coming - anyone seen an order yet for these? & I want a life too):

And before you say it, they have just upgraded the 1st 2 F/O's, yes they have a cmd course in place, this is fact...not dreams & memories of 3-4 yrs ago!

F/O's now take home more in the hand at HKA than at KA
HKA82500 (more than this above 50hrs flying) - KA60-70

Cpts the same
HKA121500 (same as above for > 50hrs flying) - KA100 up

Gratuity at HKA Yr 1 - 50 Yr 2-100 Yr 3 - 150

They also did profit share last year.

OK, so KA gets housing & CEA, that is the big difference. But consider most guys at HKA are commuting home & living in places like Phuket! So they get more than $$$...they get lifestyle and savings on the dollar conversion, living in paradise compared to the pollution that Fooey is always on about.

My buddy has had 15 & 18 days off in the last 2 months - some of the blocks of days off 5, 7, 4 and yes, they can do days off back-to-back from one month to another. We can't!
HKA put in roster requests for days off upto the 6th day of the month prior, we have to do it, what? 3mths? I've forgotten, because I just don't bother anymore, don't get them most of the time and if I ever did, they want me at work with a 6am sign on the day after...thanks.
Holidays 2mths prior, us? a year +...HKA might not get 42 days a year like us, but do you need to when you get rosters with so many days off in blocks anyway?
So we get coin, but we fly 20-22 days a month and work for a GMO that said from the time we sign on at the start of your working week to the end, KA owns our ass and will do what they want with us"...now that's living!

HKA guys & girls fly & overnight in: Moscow (3 days), Maldives (3 days), Bali (24hrs), Bangkok (36hrs)...London & Australia coming in the New Year. Where do we go at KA? Chengdu, Nanjing, etc....min rest overnights, oh breath in that good air!

So AAI & Fooey, don't throw stones, the falling broken glass will get you where it hurts. Now go away, just go away.

OK rant over, please don't see AAIGUY & HKFOOEY as indicative of all pilots at KA, we're not!
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Old 27th Nov 2011, 14:46   #17 (permalink)

 
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Your a knob

The CX cadet scheme abs AHK defo pay more.
Word last week was KA was contacting some old
interviews they couldn't take on.
Metrojet pays more.. As does Tag and Jet
Aviation.

HKA is the lowest paying job.
More than that. The total package is
where the real issue is. Staff travel , medical? Ect
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Old 27th Nov 2011, 23:28   #18 (permalink)
 
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Cathay's deso and cadet scheme deffinitely does not pay as much. TAG and Metro are not airlines. AHK is about par with HKA but its alot of back of the clock operations and if you think that Dragon will fire up recruitment again and offer the same excellent package now that Cathay has been gutted, you are dillusional. Dont get me wrong, im not saying that HKA is awsome, im just saying that the race to the bottom in the industry has hit everywhere, to the point that one can make a case that HKA is the best offer in town at the moment
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Old 28th Nov 2011, 01:00   #19 (permalink)

 
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Cathay s non repayable million dollar loan,
Medical and staff travel alone put it above HKA.

But whatever, go to HKA a enjoy.
It's great .. You'll love it.

As I'm leaving on 2 months leave tommorow,
I shan't keep up with this thread.

HKA leave.. HA!
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Old 28th Nov 2011, 02:01   #20 (permalink)


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Well thought out response AAI. Just goes to show your intelligence is an insult to all at KA, I'm embarrassed to say I work with you.

Staff travel...let's see. We get 4 FOC's at KA and consistently screwed over by CX trying to get on flights, let's not even look at the way Staff Travel treats us.

HKA - 5 FOC's, they can put ANYONE on their list, and not just 1 person! They can jump seat for free on their freighters and ZED fares with a growing list of airlines. As I said previously, guys are regularly commuting, some as far as Germany & Spain...if their staff travel was no good, they wouldn't be doing that.

I last remember when we had freighters at KA we were never allowed near them!

Medical...yeah KA's is just the pinnacle of aviation ain't it? That's why it has been a fight to get the company to get it improved for years. Anyone who is smart enough has some sort of health cover as a back up to the crap the companies offer. Geez, even a mate of mine at CX has the extra cover and it proved to be the smartest thing ever for his family when it really hit the fan.

As for CX's non-repayable loan...try re-wording that to bond / it is repayable if you leave, etc. Stat facts, not twist it.

Let's not forget, Southwest started out the same way and now they they are the highest paid in the US. If HKA want to expand at the rate they want, etc...the package is one of the things that will need to improve.

Have to start somewhere I suppose, and been in there early is better than waiting to see it hit the fan (just ask ex-Ansett guys about that).
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