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Old 6th May 2009, 23:49   #1 (permalink)
 
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Lhr 744: Sop

Hey guys,

Just got my ppl and i hope to fly the big ones one day.

I have always been interested in the 744 and CX. So I was wondering what the SOP for CX at LHR is for takeoffs. Specifically regarding the flap retraction schedule and accel. height.

So what i know is: Flaps 10 and TOGA. But i have been told different things regarding accel. height and thrust reduction height by CX pilots for LHR.

Flaps 10, CLB at 1000', climb to 1500 then clean up.

Flaps 10, CLB at 1000', SPD intervene to Flaps 5 speed, climb to 4000 and clean up.

Feel free to add in any other info. regarding SOP procedure specifically for the 744.

times seem to be tough at CX, but stick together guys!

Leo
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Old 7th May 2009, 22:14   #2 (permalink)
 
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Nobody here flying the 744 anymore?

Leo
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Old 7th May 2009, 23:24   #3 (permalink)
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You asked specifically for 'CX'. 744 pilots are 2 a penny, but they are dutifully silent as your question was specifically targeted!

Maybe the hairy chested CX Captains didn't take too kindly to a 17 year old calling them 'guys' as well?
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Old 8th May 2009, 08:19   #4 (permalink)
 
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Just for the record and accuracy it is "Disgusted of Tunbridge Wells"
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Old 8th May 2009, 11:01   #5 (permalink)
 
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Balls to the walls; pedal to the metal. Up, up and away.

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Old 8th May 2009, 11:29   #6 (permalink)
 
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give the poor chap a break......at least he had the sense to not enquire about that french hair dryer powered piece of shit (380, 340....all the same to me).
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Old 8th May 2009, 15:00   #7 (permalink)
 
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Congratulations on the PPL! Check private messages Leo.
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Old 25th May 2009, 19:29   #8 (permalink)
 
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would the sop be the same for both 744 and 744F out of london due to weights cause i assume the 744f don't carry as much weight as the pax would.
Also do you use TO2 for light take offs?
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Old 26th May 2009, 04:17   #9 (permalink)
 
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yes to same SOP for 744 and 744f, yes to t02 when light (unlikely ex heathrow on ULH....not sure what short 744F sectors would use). as for the 744f being lighter...all depends where it is going. the highest MTOW's are on the 744F fleet.

hope this helps

Treb
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Old 29th May 2009, 17:51   #10 (permalink)
 
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Thumbs up

Can somebody tell me what the flap/accel and thrust reduction is out of LHR and HKG please.
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Old 29th May 2009, 22:20   #11 (permalink)
 
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1000' is standard except 07 departures (ex HKG) which are 1400'.
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Old 30th May 2009, 06:47   #12 (permalink)
 
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which airline does it that way....only curious as with CX 1400' only comes in when engine out off 07
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