recruitment at cx
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Tell somebody who gives a toss about your stupid IFALPA ban...hope CX sues the lot of you for interfering with it's recruitment...morons <img src="rolleyes.gif" border="0"> <img src="mad.gif" border="0">
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Well Ironbutt57....noticed that this is the year of the horse...too bad the HKAOA are acting like a bunch of horses....ah, backsides, as in south end. <img src="rolleyes.gif" border="0">
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The ban is a bunch of scare-tactic crap,just like alpo during the 80's going 'round calling eastern pilots and continental pilots scabs, then admitting them into the union after all when the coffers needed replenishing...same story here, these union morons are trying to use the potential nw hires as pawns in their own games against management...but they sort of forget the newhires are also probable union supporters...or were..now it's doubtful..so once again the unions are snatching defeat from the jaws of victory so to speak...
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There is currently a holding pool at the moment for pilots that passed the selection process late last year and these guys are waiting on course dates at some stage this year when all the a/c are back in the sky etc.
The letter I received at Christmas basically said they did not know when courses would start.
I understand that there is'nt any more interviewing planned until the hold pool starts to reduce in due course.
Hope this helps
and guys give us a break regards the f**king recruitment ban, its getting boring now!!!!
The letter I received at Christmas basically said they did not know when courses would start.
I understand that there is'nt any more interviewing planned until the hold pool starts to reduce in due course.
Hope this helps
and guys give us a break regards the f**king recruitment ban, its getting boring now!!!!
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Beenthere,. .ICAO Atpl is just fine as is an FAA and JAA. From what I've read about CX, the minimums used to be about 3500TT for S/O candidates prior to Sept11 and are now much, much higher.
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thankyou,
ive had some mates get into cx with as little as around 1300 tt. is this possible. seems quite low to me?
despite the trouble cx is going through at the moment, i think its a great airline and hope things pick up there soon.
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ive had some mates get into cx with as little as around 1300 tt. is this possible. seems quite low to me?
despite the trouble cx is going through at the moment, i think its a great airline and hope things pick up there soon.
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In the past there certainly have been pilots that have been accepted into CX with around 1500hrs. I guess the key thing to remember is that the '1000hrs' that they state as their minimums are exactly that, only minimums. On average most guys have in excess of 3000hrs and Turboprop time.
With so many unemployed experienced drivers out there at the moment looking for jobs, I'd have to say CX will have some pretty experienced guys on file waiting for interviews etc when/if recruitment picks up again.
With so many unemployed experienced drivers out there at the moment looking for jobs, I'd have to say CX will have some pretty experienced guys on file waiting for interviews etc when/if recruitment picks up again.
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I have know idea when the hold pool will start to reduce hense (In Due Course), but as the market very slowly starts to pick up I dare say there will be a phone call from CX.
But as I said I do not know when this will be, so just have to play the waiting game.
cheers
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I have know idea when the hold pool will start to reduce hense (In Due Course), but as the market very slowly starts to pick up I dare say there will be a phone call from CX.
But as I said I do not know when this will be, so just have to play the waiting game.
cheers
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James and Beenthere,. .Yeah...go ahead and apply once you've got the 1000TT and ATPL writtens passed. Then submit your flight hours every 3 months or so to CX and in return you'll receive their acknowlegement in the form of a postcard(this info was obtained from this forum and I would recommend that you browse through the archives from before Sept11 to get a better idea of how things are done at CX). Hope it goes well and maybe you'll get lucky. But I don't know if luck is the right word given what's going on at CX right now.
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I'm over 10,000 multi hours, 7,000 turbine, submitted the CX application a while ago. No response at all yet.
I'm a union man to the bone, always have been, but the fact is that in the current employment climate it is very difficult for a union to keep both credibility and Members while holding a hard line against management.
My own union (a regional) had hard choices to make on a monthly basis, and has had that situation continuously for over a decade due to the airline's poor finances. But the Executive face the facts that inappropriate action on the pilots' part can close the airline for good and put them all out of work.
So when their backs are against the wall there may be brief industrial action - a sick out once a year, maybe, and a day-long strike if they are really pressed - but a hiring ban is not going to work in the long run and the union will eventually have to accept that.
Having removed a group of pilots, not even a western management would now save face by hiring them back. There must be a way for the union to extricate itself from the situation and for both parties to get on with business.
Obviously this is not a straighforward matter, but there is a solution to every problem and the fact is that closure of the airline is not going to happen. It is also pretty clear that the dismissed are not going to be taken back.
Any news on the hiring of someone for the new position of middle-man buffer between Management and Flight Crew??
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I'm a union man to the bone, always have been, but the fact is that in the current employment climate it is very difficult for a union to keep both credibility and Members while holding a hard line against management.
My own union (a regional) had hard choices to make on a monthly basis, and has had that situation continuously for over a decade due to the airline's poor finances. But the Executive face the facts that inappropriate action on the pilots' part can close the airline for good and put them all out of work.
So when their backs are against the wall there may be brief industrial action - a sick out once a year, maybe, and a day-long strike if they are really pressed - but a hiring ban is not going to work in the long run and the union will eventually have to accept that.
Having removed a group of pilots, not even a western management would now save face by hiring them back. There must be a way for the union to extricate itself from the situation and for both parties to get on with business.
Obviously this is not a straighforward matter, but there is a solution to every problem and the fact is that closure of the airline is not going to happen. It is also pretty clear that the dismissed are not going to be taken back.
Any news on the hiring of someone for the new position of middle-man buffer between Management and Flight Crew??
[ 14 February 2002: Message edited by: ipanema ]</p>
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Ipanema,you may have been misled by the rantings of 411a etc. The union is not the guilty party here. The only way for this dispute to end, or at least for some normality to return is for the management to either take one of the numerous outs offered to it by the HKAOA,or come up with some sort of face saving formula itself. The dispute has now reached the stage where only the lawyers (in the High Court in London) are winning. Most, if not all the 48 left would accept a properly constituted redundancy deal as indeed offered company wide a few months before this all started. For those thinking of joining the ban, and I accept we all have mouths tofeed and toys to buy.......wait until you are in a crewroom (as I have been), watching survivors of the Oz 89 dispute toasting each other due to news of one of the scabs spearing in in a lighty.....then you realise how long your name will be remembered! <img src="mad.gif" border="0"> <img src="eek.gif" border="0"> <img src="mad.gif" border="0">
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Anyone know when the last guys to start actually started? When did they interview? Are these last guys onboard subject to the ban?
How about the hold pool...any idea of how many there are waiting to start when things return to some kind of normality? How long have people been in the hold?
How about the hold pool...any idea of how many there are waiting to start when things return to some kind of normality? How long have people been in the hold?
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DREAMERS DREAMERS DREAMERS…………
As If I am going to waste the last 10 years of hard work towards a career with a huge international airline , just because some bitter and twisted guys are trying to pull the company down……If you are that hell bent at getting back at the management from CX well YOU!! Stop flying , call sick and do what other games you do best to disrupt “the hand that feeds you”…….
Have a strike – get together hold hands and all have a cry……But don’t you dare even for a minute try and intimidate ME or any other guy who’s spent years in GA working towards a job of a life time….
The hiring of SO’s initially is to facilitate expansion and the acquisition of new aircraft and routes , which will happen soon in the near future…..
Yes the way in which the 49’ers were dealt with was rough but by all accounts that’s for you guys to sought out – so strike / don’t accept upgrades…. BUT YOU WILL NOT change the course of my life for your own bitter benefit , when the airline is still expanding and needs pilots.
I have numerous good mates all at CX – saying enough is enough with this crap and they are sick of contributing their money to support the cause and they are ready to accept an upgrade, They know the job is fantastic and speak highly of the company.
Ignore me on the flight deck – throw peanuts at me at the bar – call me a scab but and play your childish school boy games if you wish ………
WORK IT OUT ANOTHER WAY GUYS BUT DON’T STUFF OTHER PEOPLES LIVES AROUND – AND USE US AS PAWNS IN A BITTER BATTLE.
DREAMERS DREAMERS DREAMERS…………
As If I am going to waste the last 10 years of hard work towards a career with a huge international airline , just because some bitter and twisted guys are trying to pull the company down……If you are that hell bent at getting back at the management from CX well YOU!! Stop flying , call sick and do what other games you do best to disrupt “the hand that feeds you”…….
Have a strike – get together hold hands and all have a cry……But don’t you dare even for a minute try and intimidate ME or any other guy who’s spent years in GA working towards a job of a life time….
The hiring of SO’s initially is to facilitate expansion and the acquisition of new aircraft and routes , which will happen soon in the near future…..
Yes the way in which the 49’ers were dealt with was rough but by all accounts that’s for you guys to sought out – so strike / don’t accept upgrades…. BUT YOU WILL NOT change the course of my life for your own bitter benefit , when the airline is still expanding and needs pilots.
I have numerous good mates all at CX – saying enough is enough with this crap and they are sick of contributing their money to support the cause and they are ready to accept an upgrade, They know the job is fantastic and speak highly of the company.
Ignore me on the flight deck – throw peanuts at me at the bar – call me a scab but and play your childish school boy games if you wish ………
WORK IT OUT ANOTHER WAY GUYS BUT DON’T STUFF OTHER PEOPLES LIVES AROUND – AND USE US AS PAWNS IN A BITTER BATTLE.