Fragrant HarbourA forum for the large number of pilots (expats and locals) based with the various airlines in Hong Kong. Air Traffic Controllers are also warmly welcomed into the forum.
Well it only took the AOA thugs a month and a half before they realised it is time to join the world in the fight against terror. Even then, they only suspended (Taxy Slow) policy because it wasnt taking them anywhere. Lets hope they consider the young pilots around the world and in their own company and cooperate with CX to avoid any job losses. I understand they will talk with a "Clean sheet" no pre conditions. 49'ers... what 49'ers they're history.
oh boy, so the union has given up. I have a friend over here that wouldn't attend an interview with Cathay because of the ban. I have a feeling he will be kicking union @ss from now on. Have a feeling also that Cathay management by be doing the same thing. always thought you were a $hit stirrer 411A but guess you did know what you were talking about. My sympathy to the '49s but you all have the experience and when things pick up you will get jobs again outside Honk kong.
Sorry to disapoint you, but the pilots' at CX have not "given up". They are calling the managements' bluff and challenging them to talk, instead of making excuses. It worked and talks are happening from Tuesday. Industrial action will continue, at a higher pace, if the talks fail.
Now let me get this straight; the industrial action didn't ( and was never going to ) get the Company back to the table. So if the outcome of the new talks is not satisfactory the Industrial Action is back ON??
Result >> more demotions and discipline and no closer to a deal.
I think the Union had just better continue the cave in. At least they will survive to cave-in another day.
Jealous of having one is it? The action changed the companies attitude from we won't talk to we will talk. It also cost them a sh*tload of money. Simple guys.
The only 'simple guys' round here, Lerxt, are the ones who have been following the dictates of the AOA. We could have ramped up the A scales to pre 93 and given A scales to all new Captains if the AOA had had any sense. In that package, there would have been room to bring back the 49, or some of them. AOA are now weakened. They never learn.
Presumably the "deal" to which you refer is the one contained in the document signed by the DFO and headed "Talks about Talks".
You clearly believe that document contained a genuine deal that the AOA apparently refused out of hand. I do not understand, and perhaps you can explain, how a meeting between low level representatives from each side aimed at establishing if there is sufficient common ground to warrant a meeting between the "mover and shakers", suddenly produces a binding deal which is rejected.
You will detect that I am sceptical of that document and KB's subsequent letter to the SCMP and applaud any efforts the AOA take to get him to the table to explain in full exactly what it is he is offering and what it is he seeks in return.