Qantas Crew Discussions - I

[peanut pusher]

BKK base was put on a short extension of contract due to expire shortly.

Does anybody know if they have been offered anything else ?

Some seem to think thats it for them and they will be finished up.

[skylarker]

BKK base just had a new contract signed off and will be around for while yet.

Good news for them after alot of uncertainty these past few months.

[GalleyHag]

How do LH crew feel about the new L.A. hotels? Compared to the current one they look pretty ordinary, however the location may suit crew more is that the case? The new hotels are contained in a notice on the CC website.

[twiggs]

Originally Posted by GalleyHag

How do LH crew feel about the new L.A. hotels? Compared to the current one they look pretty ordinary, however the location may suit crew more is that the case? The new hotels are contained in a notice on the CC website.

Considering a few years ago we were fighting the company in the AIRC to get out of the downtown location, I think there will be many of us that will feel much safer in Costa Mesa.
And for those that still want to stay downtown, you will still have the option by doing JFK trips.

[Qstar]

Ok....
In years to come say 5-10y LONG HAUL has 3 devisions - L/H - QCCA - A380
747 aircraft sold off, scrapped, 744 sold off, scrapped, 767 to short haul.

QCCA - Fly A330 - B787
QCCA - A380 ( 20 + Aircraft) now the Flagship of Qantas (Dedicated Crew)
QCA - A330 - B787

This 5y EBA states B787 is for Long Haul crew, but alas by the time they arrive our EBA is out of date and we need a new EBA9.
Maybe B787 will be dedicated too, or QCCA A380 - B787

This means we no longer employ QCA LH Cabin crew, promotions these also slow down to a trickle as we need them only in QCCA.

Does anyone else see this or am I being over the top worried, when I have nothing to be concerned really about......

[Qstar]

oops DIVISIONS..... so did not proof read.....

[airbus_galley_girl]

"Quote"

Rumour has it that some long haul trips are already being kept out of the roster build for QCCA F/A's to do....the more expensive routes I assume. Funny how a QCCA person can be on a trip that a QAL crew member bid for.



That has been happening at SH for years! Qantas has been caught out holding flying for SH Permanent Crew who have bidded for the patterns and given them to MAM Casuals, nothing new here.

[mrpaxing]

Qstar. You should be more worried about this clause!!!! keep looking at the oil prices and dont sweat too much!!
17. COMPULSORY REDUNDANCIES
The Compulsory Redundancy Arrangements are outlined in Schedule 2 to this Agreement.
Any compulsory redundancy of employees under this agreement will occur in reverse order of seniority.
Seniority for the purpose of this clause means the total period of service as an employee in any classification
covered by this agreement, whether employed by Qantas or QCCA. For this purpose employees of Qantas and QCCA shall be treated as one group for the determination of seniority.

[H_Girl]

i don't think there is much need to worry regarding compulsory redundancies, there will always be enough crew willing to take the package especially as they didn't let any BFA go last time.

[A_B_P]

Leave without pay available next bid period for BFA and F/A. Are we still recruiting?

[Qstar]

this was in the Financial Review.....


02 Jun 2008 | The Australian Financial Review
Qantas CEO Needs Seachange

Qantas lurches from bad news story to bad news story, either of its own telling or as recounted by so many of its weary and disappointed customers ('Qantas axes routes, jobs on fuel pain', May 29).

I cannot identify a chief executive officer who is focused less on the needs of his customers and staff and more on creating shareholder and executive wealth than Geoff Dixon.

In this he ignores the dictums that, in a service industry, customers need constant attention, and staff need to be treated in the same way as you would want them to treat your customers.

Constant cost cutting and “Chicken Little” speeches, lead to corporate anorexia and disengaged staff, never to sustainable high performance.

On the upside, having weekly contact with Qantas staff, I am continually amazed at the latent goodwill and commitment that so many of these people have for their organisation and brand.

While Insurance Australia Group may have been over led and undermanaged, Qantas suffers from relative over management and a leadership void as Dixon fails to enlist his people in the task of working through the group’s challenges.

As the Qantas board approaches the choice of its next CEO, we can only hope it recognises the need for a seachange in the role of, and contribution from, Dixon’s successor.

Roger R. Collins
Gerroa NSW

[Sistema]

this was much more fun when it was the cns chit-a-chatta...

now who knows >

1. Whats happening with us?

&

2. Where's the chux?

[QF skywalker]

Rather than telling us to cut back on crew luggage in the cabin (to save fuel costs ), maybe they could cut back on bulk loading of chux !

Seriously, I've never been so amused at their latest way to pick on crew. They are relentless in sending Cairns crew on ' POO ' ( Pattern Of One ) 6 day trips and they think a 3rd piece of luggage ( QF suitpack ) is inappropriate ?

Still waiting to hear our fate up in CNS. Do we really care anymore ?

[OchreOgre]

QF Skywalker - no.

[midsection]

Hi All

Anything to report on CNS base.
Hopefully it will be good news for you all.
Hang in there

[DJCCGuy]

Can anyone tell me if QF has internal transfers to Cabin Crew from other departments, such as ground crew?

[indamiddle]

all new lhcc will be qcca pay rates so no point going ground crew to get into cc. short haul is only mam. at least mam earn more without jet lag

[mrpaxing]

the new sh eba is finished. i can see a mr. ma being removed from any connections with qf.

[peanut pusher]

THe QCC mill is punching out rumour faster than Audrey's inflight service mess up's.

1,CNS base is looking on less solid ground with the buiness model being looked at as sectors are not going ahead that would of supported it.

2,Offer of VR and LWOP will be out by end of next week.

3,Even a part time job share is being talked about for min 6 months.

4,The visitors were told a restructure of management is looking likely so the intro of many middle manager wally's may be looking for work next week.

5,Reduction of all non profit routes and even looking at cheaper hubbing in Asia as HKG and BKK are charging stupid money for landing, taxes etc etc. KL has been courting QF for over 18 months with no taxes or landing costs for 20years.

It will be a very interesting next few weeks with all the elements stacking together for another asain money crisis.

Big economy nations ie USA, UK, Japan EU etc buy alot less and cancel orders from massive asian manufacturers and these economies are set up for large volume mass market.

It's already reflected in asia now with orders slowing and the world price of rice up over 180% in 2 years.

Cut price airline cowboys who prostitued the airline industry with cheap wages and stupid fares have just had the low cut business model shoved back up their a_s with interest as they cannot continue to sell tickets with stupid margins that has done nothing more than destablise the great industry it once was.

I think Virgin blue will not be around another 3 years as the ASX showed VB at a low of 58c this week with toll saying they may walk away from VB leaving them without a finacial backer.

They have lost over $1 billion in that asset in 2 years.

Tuff times ahead for QF staff as GD will use this leaver to turn the tables on the real worker.

Tuff times for everybody !!!!!

[mrpaxing]

valid comments PP, but its not all doom and gloom.GD uses the current oil/engineering issues as excuses trying to screw the working people in QF. oil is always going to be on the way up with ecomomies like India/China massively increasing demand. thats why QF employs a economist/risk managment team/consultants to give the best market updates/foresights. It is as no surprise that GD & CO put out a lot of missinformation about the engineering dispute. that they also got caught out on fuel hedging and lack of foresight in getting the 777 is more then enough to sack the lot.
now they are talking about a 5% reduction in management. what a joke!! they have multiplied since the last "restructure" like rabbits in the simpson dessert. anyway lets see what the next week brings