Gregg Air (threads merged)

[wobblyprop]

can anyone shed any light on these guys? what are they like to work for? is there a typical number of hours flown per year?

Thanks

[send_em_anyway]

Does anyone know the results from the FI advert 18/7 for Co-pilots by Gregg Air - did everyone who applied have a type rating ..... how many were employed ..... etc and - did they reply to your cv? What was the interview like.... and so on

[Say again s l o w l y]

Just got a PFO from them a couple of days ago.

[mach2moose]

I also received a "thanks but no thanks" letter.

I do not have a citation type rating, but at least they had the decency to respond.

Good luck to anyone successful.

m2m

[chinny]

:confused: Chased up my application last week to be told-you will be informed by Chief pilot as and when-still waiting:uhoh: :uhoh: :uhoh:

[A Very Civil Pilot]

CV sent in, but no reply. Does that mean I don't even deserve a PFO, or is there a invitation on its way?

[Gazeem]

Got a PFO....very nice quality paper though!

[wobblyprop]

I got a pfo too. With low hours I didn't expect much different.

Pleased that they have the common courtesy to write back.

[chinny]

:ok: in this day and age -that is something!!:cool:

[chinny]

Any one one get any pfo's or even better-an invite?:sad: :8 :ouch:

[jason007]

Yeh I got the good quality F.U letter too. I’m going to use it to wipe my backside with. Well since I don’t have a job that pays more then £100 a week and cant afford anything nicer then the Tesco Loo role, I think it’ll be quite nice for the job.

[send_em_anyway]

I too have had no reply - but I was told they had over 1500 applications, got the impression they had chosen people - some without type ratings, with a range of hours - couldn't find out how low was the low end though :)
hey chinny and very civil could an invitation be on the way - we havent' found anyone who has one yet???

[chinny]

still flat this end:\
:} looks like it's going to be another one for the thread "anyone actually get a job advertised in FI":sad:
Our survey said.....uh..ugh:bored: :ugh: :{

[Daifly]

Maybe the jobs have gone to people who don't read PPRuNe?

*Gasp, Shock, Horror* - do such people exist!? ;)

[chinny]

:rolleyes: Don't be soooo silly !!!:uhoh:

[Daifly]

Yeah, sorry. Don't know what I was thinking... :O

[flyer75]

also got a FU letter,on top of my full ATPL and 2600 multi turbine single pilot metro and 1900 ...!!!!.**** em too...must have got guys who know how to knee well from OAT..

[jason007]

Amen..........:O

[chinny]

:confused: Have you heard anything yet-Nadda here.:suspect:

[send_em_anyway]

:sad: well, I've got my refusal now, too. They did say they would keep me on file though (under b.i.n.???). If flyer75 didn't get anywhere, I've got no chance. Hey flyer, how many hours do you need to start on the metro?!

[chinny]

:uhoh: are they still sending out their PFU's?Any one got an invite:confused:

[littletonyfokker]

Does anyone have any idea whose HS125 they are getting?

[chinny]

:hmm: any one still waiting for a reply,good or bad ?:sad:

[leerpit35]

Havn't rec'd pfo of anything else for that matter. Did give them a ring, they said they'd loads of applications, so am suprised they have the postage to send out pfos!

[MAX]

I know 2 bodies who were successfull. One was rated on the bravo. The other was rated on the Excel, Bravo and 125.

Good Luck.

MAX:cool:

[Vortex Thing]

I know a guy who was working for MANN at Staverton who starts there next week.

He DIDN'T have a type ratinq and has 350TT fATPL.

Lucky soul eh

[A Very Civil Pilot]

Chinny

Nothing heard, but that is nor surprising if they have already slected someone. Why waste postage on a closed issue.

In the biz world, it's all down to who you know.

[chinny]

:eek: and there we all thought that they held morals and ethics.........hhmmmmh:}

VTSP.

[flyer75]

send-em-anyway
You needed 1200 hoursTT,500 multi but as single pilot ops now its around 4000hours and a H1 visa,a US work permit that is.
Tailwinds

[send_em_anyway]

thanks for that flyer75, looks like I'm ruled out of the metro too!

[Caledonian]

GD'day,

Are Greggair still operating?? mate of mine said they were in financial difficulties and they certainly aint doing much/any flying so anyone else heard anything?

tvm
Cal

[witchdoctor]

Not sure how recent your news was, but they were advertising for Hawker 800 rated crews only 6 weeks ago or thereabouts. Not that this proves anything in the whacky world of aviation.

[Lear_doctor]

Page 5 of this months (Feb) EBAN magazine has a feature on them. Addition of a second Ultra at Farnbourgh


Regards


The Doc

[Ex Oggie]

They had office space at CVT on the southside last time I was there, not too long ago.

As an aside, do they have any affiliation or casual relationship with OxAero?

[LGW Vulture]

Don't see the need for worry here.

Paul Gregg being Mr Everton, "short of cash" is not the expression that comes to mind.

Plus, didn't GreggAir orignate from Oxaero, or someone very near anyway?

[cambioso]

I believe that Oxaero was sold to Houston Jet Services (later Greggair) in late 2001.
Everton are not doing so well as a company I understand......
Perusing the HJS / Greggair accounts lodged with Companies House, for year end 2002 shows a loss of £793,000 compared with a loss of £28,000 the year before.
Greggair were "cash only, no credit" with some handling agents recently.
It has been a quiet winter for all of us I think.
Their payroll alone, with a doubling of the staff last year (EBAN Dec 2003), must be quite high.
Perhaps we had better "watch this space" ???

[checklist69]

.... it's like having one's Beano confiscated.

:(

[4HolerPoler]

I found it parked in one of our Admin forums. I'm trying to find out who moved it there & would hope to have it back here soon. It's a dinosaur but I'll do my best to get it back.

4HP

[checklist69]

... the old ones are always the best!


:)

[Looooong haul]

I know that people suggest that the company is slowly disappearing... but the thread as well :p

[HyFlyer]

It may seem a little stark, but perhaps vodka can revive the dead ?
Anyway, if you were foxy in this situation looking East may be the solution.
Anybody want to help fill in the details ?

[Daifly]

Is it true that AD has gone too now...?

[sinistar]

Well, it's not come back so lets start another one...
Now, where were we...?
Ahh yes, animals in the farmhouse!

[Aerial Anarchist]

The original post was removed for a reason- can admin please tell us why?
A lot of people have been affected by the actions of this operator over the last 2 years and it is right a forum exists for those who remain interested.

latest rumour is of a move to FAB and new owners from the east?

[checklist69]

Good points, Anarchist. One cannot help thinking that pressures may have been brought to bear by GA to have the thread removed ....... wouldn't have helped the negotiations would it?

Surely, our PPruner mentors would not have succumbed to such undue interference.

There must be another reason. Perhaps.

4HP, can you enlighten us?

:suspect:

'69

[4HolerPoler]

We've had various approaches, from a number of parties, during the life of the previous thread to close it down and such a recent request/demand caught Danny on a day when he was rather preoccupied and he's parked it in a quiet side-water to rot.

My advice is accept the spring-clean, get this new thread going with current events & news concerning Greggair and we'll field the incomings.

4HP

[Klatsch]

AA - don't hold your breath on the new owners. Rumour has it the wall is getting closer for GA!!

[Aerial Anarchist]

Back to the top- they are not getting awaythat easily!

What's the latest from the farm yard?

[LGW Vulture]

I hear the doors have finally closed ...... !! Any truth in the rumour ???

[Daifly]

Hope not, we're still waiting for our money.

[Dumbledor]

Good luck Daifly! I hope you get your money. I waited 2 months for mine and that was when things were hunkydorey.
I hope for the crews sake this rumour is just that, 'a rumour'. A nicer bunch of guys you couldn't wish to work with.
D

[Daifly]

Well, the Judge said we could have it...

[Aerial Anarchist]

I would only like to know the real inside story of what has happened inside this company over the past two years, the damage done by the Austria lot?:confused:

The Gregg's have little idea how the mismanagement of this outfit affected individuals far and wide. RIP farmhouse. Into the aviation compost bin you go!

[Arkwright]

Heard that The Farmhouse has just sold G-NETA..... :( so how many a/c have they left now????? :ugh:

[sinistar]

Hmmmmm, let's see..... 1 Premier that a) keeps breaking down (don't they all?!) and b) isn't actually owned by them, and a 125 that hey, keeps breaking down!!! Well, it seems to spend a lot of time in maintenance, maybe it's broken or the facility won't let them have it cos guess what... maybe they owe money!

It's been reported that the previous thread, interesting though it was, was hounded out of existance by Greggair management. Maybe in an attempt to stem the slating they were getting. Can't blame them, but they should think themselves lucky. Those Goldair boys really know how to bitch. One respondant got it absolutely right when he suggested 'who'd want to be flown around by this lot'! Check it out, see for yourself. Greggair... you may have shameful management but as for the troops... dedication and professionlism were never in doubt.

[Daifly]

Well, 2004 was a £4.1M loss according to Companies House, against £634k the previous year. £2M of which was lost in the disposal of assets (though my accounting skills prevent me from working out what they were).

G-NETA isn't owned by Gregg Air or Houston Jet Services (dba Gregg Air), it's owned by Mr Gregg himself.

[OLNEY 1 BRAVO]

The Premier was flying yesterday evening.

[sinistar]

Yeah, I think the purchase of G-NETA by the owner was this 're-finance' that was going on. However as it's now for sale or sold (!) rumour has it that all you could hear from the Gregg household once the sale went through was 'Doh!'. Bit like buying shower gel instead of bath salts... you think that it might do the trick but all you get is a big foamin' mess!

[Varnish]

Just heard a rumour that it's all finally come to an end....can anyone confirm this? :cool:

[checklist69]

The Fat Lady has not been invited on-stage yet, but she's waiting in the wings.

:(

'69

[Farrell]

Is this the building that I pass each time I am in Oxford??

[LB1985]

G-OSPG (Hawker 125-800) was still operating last night...

[TheOtherSide]

Did see in one of the Aviaiton Sales magazines last night that G-NETA and G-OSPG were pup for sale. They were using the pictures off the Gregg Air website to advertise them?

Anyone fancy chipping in?

The Other Site

[Grayclouds]

The Hawker has just lost its FO! But I believe there are new beginnings for Gregg Air.............?

[checklist69]

Yeah, yeah ..... of course, sure, definitely, maybe.

:(

'69

[Grayclouds]

I only said 'I believe there are..........'

[benhurr]

The Hawker has just lost its FO!

Complete and utter rubbish.

The Hawker has lost a FO.

[sinistar]

heard a Guernsey businessman was interested in buying it, or was it Jersey..... can't remember, any how also heard he hasn't got enough money to pay the debts so I guess its back to the drawing board :{
NETA was flying the other day under its tail callsign :eek:

[deing]

G-NETA is now flying in Belgium for Sky Service/Abelag out of Kortrijk

[Grayclouds]

BENHURR

There were only two FOs!

[benhurr]

BENHURR

There were only two FOs!

That was my point. There was 2 and now there is one.

[Grayclouds]

You have made your point Benhurr.........you must be the lonely hero!

[benhurr]

nah not me I just know the FO, if anyone needs a Hawker FO then I am sure he would be interested

[Grayclouds]

mmmmm..........the plot thickens!:= :hmm:

[tempilot]

BenHurr.
Tell you F/O friend to check the GAMA website (Recruitment).

[Aerial Anarchist]

I think you may find that THE ONLY Hawker F/O has resigned this week.What a shambles!

[Cabin Dragon]

Oh dear.

:hmm:

CD

[Grayclouds]

Then there was none.............:{

[sinistar]

Back to the top :E
What's the latest? ;)

[Monkey Boy]

So the Gregg Air name is no more and now it seems to be Direct Air Executive?! What gives?

[Homer Jay 148]

You can change the name of something but if the contents are still the same expect more of the same service form them, With one 17year old Hawker 800 i'm sure they'll be offering a good charter price, just enough to cover costs to bring in clients, then when it goes tech they'll sub-charter in and lose a grand or 2 per flight, Sound familiar... :D

Shame, they lost a lot of good people..And some not so good ;)

[Cabin Dragon]

Funny tho' that the only Director listed for Direct Air Executive is the ex Finance Director of Gregg Air.

:hmm:

CB

[Phil Brockwell]

Get a grip, the new owners will be looking to build, if the team needs bolstering in places then I am sure they will do that.

Without a doubt Oxaero and Gregg Air have a contact base that anyone would want, even if they are now with other suppliers, a good sales guy making service level promises that can be delivered should certainly bring enough back into the fold to keep one Hawker going.

I cannot believe for a second that the new owners plan on carrying on with things as they have been done in the past.

Lets remember that an exec airline is not about selling hours. Selling hours is the bi-product of offering good service. With one Hawker you only really need 2 good people in the office and 3 crew members. If they can get this right and then grow organically and build a more suitable fleet I see no reason why it can't work.

It's a new era, let the past go and wish them luck (unless that Gregg bloke has anything to do with it of course)

Phil

[benhurr]

Erm Phil. who do you think the one sales bloke is?;)

[Phil Brockwell]

Does it matter, it's easy enough to hire good people.

Who is it by the way?

Phil

[benhurr]

Phil

tried to send you a PM but your box is full

[Phil Brockwell]

Have now emptied my box, got your mail, have replied.

Phil

[Flying chimp]

Interesting Phil that you think that it's easy to find good people, so many operators seem to spend a little bit longer looking so that they recruit people who know nothing about the industry.:)

Anyway, I'm a bit out of touch, so what's left of GreggAir???

[bacardi walla]

Does it matter, it's easy enough to hire good people.
Who is it by the way?
Phil

Mmmmm I remember not so long ago, that you found it hard to recruit good people :ugh:

[Phil Brockwell]

Bacardi,

I found it hard to get pilots, I found it hard to get a post holder. All they need at Gregg Air is someone to oversee service levels.

Decide on exactly what product you want to deliver and measure how close you get to this, i'm not talking aviation people, i'm talking office managers, which are not all that rare a beast.

There is no point in having sales people untill you have a product that you can sell,

[bacardi walla]

Bacardi,
I found it hard to get pilots, I found it hard to get a post holder. All they need at Gregg Air is someone to oversee service levels.
Decide on exactly what product you want to deliver and measure how close you get to this, i'm not talking aviation people, i'm talking office managers, which are not all that rare a beast.
There is no point in having sales people untill you have a product that you can sell,

Ah, now I see. Did you find your postholder and pilots ?

Greggair seem to be in a losing battle. A name change won't change the overall package, so yes, having a product to sell would be useful. Begs the question, how are they surviving ??

[Phil Brockwell]

We did find our Ops guy, and pilots are a constant battle because the nature of Seneca guys is that they move on to larger aircraft.

I think the only thing they have is a client list and an AOC.

[britflyer]

Hello,

Had a tip off that Capt Shane Armstrong was working at Greggair, is this still true as the website seems to be down.:ugh:

Any news welcome...??

Steve:ok:

[checklist69]

Britflyer, I hope you don't heed betting tips from your source!

'69

[splash&dash]

Cabin DragonFunny tho' that the only Director listed for Direct Air Executive is the ex Finance Director of Gregg Air.

:hmm:

CB

CB

How did you find that info? i did a search on the web but couldnt find a 'direct air executive'? do they still have their Premier 1?

[Cabin Dragon]

Companies House.

CD

[checklist69]

All seems to have gone quiet at Oxford.

Any news from the Farmhouse?

'69

[OLNEY 1 BRAVO]

The HS125 G-OSPG seems to be flying fairly regularly from Luton and Oxford - mostly the former.

[Monkey Boy]

Hawker in mx until end of Feb - been doing ok from what I can tell. Good luck to them.

[Fried_Chicken]

The Hawker has now been re-reg'd

Fried Chicken