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KERDUNKER
6th October 2002, 13:01
Gone quite down at Farnborough, any one know whats happening?
incipientspin
6th October 2002, 14:45
Very quiet indeed, last i was told was that the bank are still faffing around and that engineering are still waiting for their
jar 145 approval to bring the aircraft back up to scratch other than that not a lot shame the guys at chauffairs offer was not accepted straight away it could've saved a lot of money, hassle and heartache........
LGW Vulture
6th October 2002, 17:56
Will someone please answer me this?
Why is the bank ploughing even more money into an operation that is:
1. Without a client base following the companies previous debacle;
2. Due to be run by an individual without knowledge of the European business aviation marketplace;
3. Already an embarassment to the bank itself!
I've no doubt that the majority of staff at Chauffair were/ are extremely well experienced and professional but, there comes a time when the duck is really dead. Surely GAMA have picked up all the remaining customer base?
Not meaning to p**s on anyone's chips but perhaps the guys have something up their sleeve....cos they're gonna need it!!
NigD2
7th October 2002, 11:22
Gents
I believe the Honeywell equiped Hawker 800 is going through RVSM modifications so operational use shouldn't be too far off after that. Once that aircraft is operational the Hawker 700 will be RVSM'd and other avionic mods
crundale
8th October 2002, 15:42
There was a statement on the AIM last week that said Aviation Partners Worldwide had put in an offer to buy Chauffair's fleet, and it had been accepted.
http://aimquoted.uk-wire.com/cgi-bin/articles/200207181110338048Y.html
Curious as I know little about Chauffair, but Aviation Partners is run by my old friend Wazza, the man behind National Jet. A man who likes to expand rapidly and expects immediate results.
So is Chauffair a company with potential, looking for new direction. If there is potential, Wazza will provide the drive and determination.
Or did it go under for a good reason?
Daifly
1st November 2002, 12:35
http://www.aimquoted.com/quotes/company.php?epic=AVW
Guess that answers that then....
LGW Vulture
1st November 2002, 12:58
Daifly
...Nice to see you back.
Does this mean that the Calljet venture is well and truly finished?
If it is, well BoS will have succeeded in doing just about everything wrong!
Bankers....should be spelt with a W I'm afraid!
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Daifly
1st November 2002, 13:16
I'm sure you mean that Vulture...!
Yep, APW were the owners of Calljet.
Sad, but ultimately, I don't think any of us will be that surprised.
Yep, only one measily letter out! See, $8m is not more than $13m - perhaps they need to know that!!
LGW Vulture
1st November 2002, 13:24
....I mean that sincerely, Daifly. Your comments are usually of some quality......unlike my own at times!!!!
What states of dis-repair are their aircraft in at present? They (BoS) will now have a real dilemma on their hands - for the SECOND time!!
Trying to rid themselves of assets that have market values way below that shown in their books. Will they sell, or do they have another hair brained scheme in their back pocket?
I am cynical, but I have reason to be!!
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NigD
1st November 2002, 21:33
LGW
G-HCFR Hawker 800 has just had a lovely new paint job done at Jet Aviation and is having RVSM flight trials next week. EGPWS and TCAS change 7 mods all complete so it should be flying to its heart content pretty soon.... Errr that is if there is a customer base left and money in the pot to pay for it all!!
NigD
KERDUNKER
3rd November 2002, 17:45
In view of the above anyone need a slightly cheesed off HS125/Citation driver................back to Mc Donalds then.
Mighty Thor
5th November 2002, 09:10
For all the mortals who are waiting to feast on the remains, beware, legend has it that the Phoenix is growing.
Daifly
5th November 2002, 12:46
Although slightly scared by the Mighty Thor, it seems he is indeed correct...
Rumour hath it, and therefore to quote Angus Deayton "alledgedly", the Calljet companies:
calljet.co.uk ltd.
calljet engineering Ltd, and
calljet leasing ltd
were removed from the APW Group before the writ was served whic brought APW down (cf. Flight International, 5-11 Nov, Page 25). They were pretty lucky then, seeing as in July it was announced to the markets that APW had made a reverse takeover of Chauffair (i.e. not calljet ltd themselves). Pretty amazing really to have had the foresight to suddenly hive them off....
But think about it from the Bank's pov. They have a deal signed and on the horizon it looks like the company you're going to sign with is about to pull the plug. Would you go back to the drawing board or would you simply renegotiate (i.e. drop your rates) with the incumbent? It's a possibility. Plus any decent capital and interest repayment holidays and it might just give you enough time to get off the ground (no pun) and start operating.
Sorry that's a bit disjointed, but I've been writing it over a period of hours!
We remain, as ever, with baited breath!
KERDUNKER
5th November 2002, 17:24
Thor....... I believe your classical education gives you away, good to see you joining the fray, just hope that this cycle is not as long as the original set.
Mighty Thor
6th November 2002, 09:11
KD, I trust you are well. Depressing as it may appear to you at this moment in time you are probably better off in your fox hole!
Throughout the past months I have quietly observed from my detatched astral platform the attempted resurection of a once proud and effective culture degenerate into a debacle.
Lets all hope that the perceptions of Daifly's are accurate, if only to serve as some comfort for the hardy souls that remained to defend the cause.
That said, reflect on this, a mythical beast may emerge from the flames. Odin willing it is of the type legends are made of and not an example of the flightless variety that always makes a universal appearnce during the twilight months of the year.
Dumbledor
6th November 2002, 11:53
Tell the phoenix to get a wriggle on or I'll have to get a new broom!!!
Daifly
6th November 2002, 15:53
I believe everyone's been paid and that there are no outstanding bills, however understand everyone's now saying that the start date of 20th November might slip?
LGW Vulture
7th November 2002, 11:11
There seems to be plenty going on to keep the rumours flying.....see the NJI thread on Airlines, Routes, Airports etc....
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SilentHandover
7th November 2002, 17:01
Are they still going to be operating from Farnborough, if so they should get a move on and be operational in time for the first day of operations in the new tower on the 18th.
:D :D :D :D
Good luck one and all.
Mighty Thor
8th November 2002, 07:34
Intriguing to see if a new born emerges from the ashes, will it be protected by warriors with double headed axe or bent sticks!!
Dumbledor
13th November 2002, 13:15
Anyone know the latest on calljet?
Mighty Thor
14th November 2002, 09:02
No idea, however intercepted dispatches are intimating that the Trojans are getting claustrophobic.
KERDUNKER
14th November 2002, 21:19
The Trojans need to be carefull, Mr Homer may have been telling stories. Now if you were alluding to Atlantis then I know that would be true because Patrick Duffy came from there and it was also in colour on our telly.............Beware the Deathwatch beetle.......Ooops, must go my trench overfloweth.
Stumbledoor "Will fly for food" Me , I will fly for any one, now put down that $X,000,000 jet and pick up your $10 shovel.......time for more beer!:D
Dumbledor
17th November 2002, 16:04
K
sounds like you've been getting sozzled on formation bar stools in a Swiss trench.
D
littletonyfokker
21st November 2002, 13:54
Start date 20th November has now past us by, Daifly do feed us with your info?
Yr old dutch mucker,
LittleTonyFokker.
leanderandhero
25th November 2002, 08:13
we hear that the "deal" will be done on Wed 27........anybody else hear that.Then what will they do?.....take on TAG and Netjets......theyd have more chance taking Moscow in the winter!
The Bank panic in Jan......looks like they done it again.only worse.
leander
PS.....What happened to the founder.....Nick Probert?
He mustve been wrecked after 20(?) years of building that company from nothing.......we hear it was a "friend" of his who p
pulled it down......Not the bank.....?
Must go for a swim......
Leander
highfly146
25th November 2002, 17:33
Is WS still invloved? The famous vice-president of the failed National Jet Italia?
leanderandhero
25th November 2002, 21:41
gimme some infofo u guys........its quite on sestos........goin for another swim.......Leander........
KERDUNKER
25th November 2002, 22:37
I cant help it I have to tell, the one who once held the keys to the kingdom is now residing in the castle occupied by the"Prince Of Darkness" (AKA Scabus Maximus.):eek:
Mighty Thor
26th November 2002, 09:27
Patience my friends, patience, swords are honed and ready. The hour of retribution draws near, the outcome is by no means certain but I can assure you that by one means or another a veil will finally be drawn over this campaign.
Leander, a word of warning, the wind is from the south tonight, I fear this could extinguish your guiding light, do not enter the Hellespont!
Dumbledor
26th November 2002, 13:44
Kerdunker,
Having recently emerged from the virtual world to behold a misty November sunrise, all is better now at Hogwarts, but how long must we ponder this time or are we damned to a new period of limbo. The tropics may beckon but we must wait for the evil Troll to rid himself of his wobbles and commit.
MightyThor,
You may find a place on the New Year's honours list, soon if you pull this off.
Beware dark forces are now regrouping in Bucks. the Count and the Master.
May the force be with you.
LGW Vulture
26th November 2002, 13:51
From what I can read into your ramblings, all is not truly sorted out @ Calljet!
Am I putting 2 and 2 together and making 5 ??.......well, don't worry, the Bank aren't good with numbers either!!!! :)
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leanderandhero
26th November 2002, 19:41
Mighty Thor......You are very confidant......and a classics student.........Im sure you can make it work......but how will they...,....?.....
wish you luck......u will need it.......but u deserve it ...........
leander..........
cant see that light yet......... oh but Ill have a go ...........going for a swim.......oh the things men will do for a ............!
Leander........
Ps.....Ohh the "prince of dark".......I bin out of this so long ........I
lost the plot.....Mighty Thor.......gimme a clue......?
Leander............goining for a swim........
Daifly
27th November 2002, 10:35
Scared...? I am.
Anyway, back to Calljet, or OurJet as I now hear it's going to be called!! As in "Our Ma", "Our Pa" and "Our Big Loan from the Bank".
Deal will be signed today with Ops starting in the middle of the month. And where have we heard that before?!
WS still involved.
Mr P was last heard of teaching English in France - if you believe the papers.
If they want another name change, how about "E-Jet". They could be Dublin based...
Dumbledor
29th November 2002, 14:37
The Campaign Against Aviation has now recorded that the proud and stoic shed people of Farnborough have at last taken possession of the machinery. Salutations to our Mighty Thor and our Chief Constable for their sterling efforts.
Morale at Hogwarts has now turned a corner. The gilted broom may now be put to one side, as we wait for the familiar mounts to emerge back into the light, line astern of course. Patience is a virtue if you can wait long enough.
Our jet is better than yours anyway..
Greycloud
1st December 2002, 14:59
Good luck to all involved,if WS is in the frame your going to need it,tin hats everyone!!!:eek:
Mzee
4th December 2002, 10:16
It's all a great farce, couldn't be better written for the stage! Chin up team.
As for losing the plot - I think L&H did about 18months ago!! :mad:
A classic myth turned tragedy, you should see what Freud had to say about it all.
KERDUNKER
10th December 2002, 17:18
Kerbonk! Gravity is a myth, the earth sucks.
KERDUNKER
4th January 2003, 23:03
Scuse me , just come to have a look around. Cor did these aeroplanes realy used to be able to fly?....Kerang !!!!! Oiii,
who turned the bloody light out?....Thank you sir please give generously four aeroplanes and one ambition to support.
LGW Vulture
15th January 2003, 13:04
Rumour has it, that Calljet / Ourjet / someone's jet please take it -are now "operational".
Anyone care to advise?
AlanM
15th January 2003, 18:11
Saw G-CFRA go into FAB yesterday on the tube........ is that still CFRish or someone else's??
What else is going on there?
KERDUNKER
15th January 2003, 21:37
Yes to ourjet... Proving flight flown today.
CFRA is now private ie nothing to do with our/yours/mine.
Frodo Baggins
16th January 2003, 06:39
As a long term observer of this thread I was beginning to think that it was all coming to a sad end!
But word in the Shire is that there are stirrings in Middle Earth!
LGW Vulture my sources say the Ourjet Limited "Has Arrived"
So yes they are apparently operational!! Maybe the duck's not dead after all! Or maybe re-incarnation isn't a myth.
Kerdunker you have interesting array of postings! SO what were they proving yesterday? That the aircraft can still fly! Are you sure that you didn't walk into the wrong hangar last week?! coz the lights still seem to be on in Ourjet's! :p
Daifly where you gone with the useful gen??:eek: Surely your still not hiding scared under your desk or did the Mighty Thor catch up with you??? Talking of which where did he go?
:confused:
Leander I presume has never returned from his last swim?! Should we be watching out for a message in a bottle?
Mzee maybe you pep talk worked afterall!!
Anyway I'm off back to the Shire to continue observing! No doubt this thread will rumble on for a long time yet :)
Congratulations and good luck to all involved!
Maybe life is just a magic roundabout!
Boiiiiing said Zebedee!
KERDUNKER
21st January 2003, 17:51
BLAST OFF !!!!
AlanM
22nd January 2003, 08:34
Does this mean the new company has started operating?
Or is that code for a non starter!!
Alan
highfly146
11th March 2003, 19:15
So, has it started operating yet?