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Centre-line Thrust
16th February 2001, 03:38
How quickly have you got your a/c round the circuit to land back, and why?
For starters: Fokker 50, 24 seconds in the sim....Trng Capt, UK Airline, just for the hell of it.
How are the cats Kevin? Rgds.
Solomon Grundy
16th February 2001, 06:34
Given the takeoff roll in said aircraft took 17 seconds (and thats empty)I do not believe that you bull !!!!ters from Blighty got that aircraft around the corner in 6 seconds!
You are a dreamer!
If you had said 1 min and 24 seconds I may have believed you.
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CP32
16th February 2001, 15:31
We tried this in a 747-400 sim last month. Apparently the record is 1 min 34 secs from brake release to a full stop. We couldn't get it to less than 1.55 and that was at light weight, 60 degree bank at 100 feet all the way round, touching down at about the same place we rotated at. Need a long R/W. We used LHR. Might be fun to see someone do it for real!!!!
Mooney
16th February 2001, 17:46
Saw a Capt ( a PPRUNE moderator!) do a circuit in 1 min 15 seconds in a 737-300... it would have been a few seconds faster if the radar dish hadn't been in the way!
standby1
16th February 2001, 18:14
60 seconds in a Tristar -100 sim
Pandora
16th February 2001, 18:54
A miserable 2 min 15 in a 737-400 sim, but not bad considering it was only my third attempt at flying the thing. Sim was set at Liverpool, instructor managed it in 1 min 35. I'm sure I'd be much faster now, just lemme have another go.
BTW have seen a triple axis microlight take off in stong headwind, go straight up to 300', change his mind and land on the same runway closer to the threshold than he left the ground.
Mzee
17th February 2001, 00:04
Similar to fastest cct: A/field to A/field
LHR to Farnborough, for real, HS 125 5 mins 25 secs. T/off to Ldg.
Send Clowns
17th February 2001, 01:22
Any crabs (RAF) out there know the current record for Akrotiri? There is an unofficial record kept, and the Lightnings held it when my father arrived with 35 sqn in 1968 and they and 9 sqn competed to see how far down it could be brought in Vulcans, but he can't remember the times they used to get.
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DB6
17th February 2001, 02:38
Don't know about all this sim stuff but I've seen it done in a Katana in 35 seconds, wheels off to wheels on.
Hamrah
17th February 2001, 04:41
Bristol RW27 to Cardiff RW30 - 3mins 48secs in 737-300
OzExpat
17th February 2001, 21:23
Kagi PNG to Efogi PNG in 1 minute even, in almost fully loaded BN2. Timed from start of take-off roll to complete stop. You can walk between the two places ... in 2 days.
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ExSimGuy
18th February 2001, 11:03
This thread brought back memories :)
707 sim at LHR, we used to "race" from LGW to LHR, with the only "rules" being, NO overspeeding the airframe! Can't remember whether it was the 707 with Conways or the one with P&Ws, but one of them allowed the buckets to be deployed over the threshold, without WOW - sure dumped airspeed fast!
The 737 was popular at "Take-off 28R, tuck the left wingtip in the turf, and land on 10R (that sim had "full" visual too!). Any of the SAA crews that we were training at the time remember the "crazy flight sim maintenance man" who demonstrated it?!?
Can't remember the timings now, but it was fun - if there's anyone from Cranebank would arrange me a visit (and if those sims are still going!!) I'd be please to demonstrate next time I'm through LHR!
BTW - we also spent some of our shifts fixing the sims ;) ;)
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B clam
18th February 2001, 15:36
Tristar-500. Brize(r/w 26)-Fairford(r/w 27). 4mins. Positioning for RIAT.
daft fader
18th February 2001, 17:36
Fastest circuit I saw was a twin crunchy some years back. After departure pilot asked me in the tower what day it was, hearing my reply , elected to land again. Didn`t time it, but it was quick! Luckily I got the day right!
Gonzo
18th February 2001, 18:15
Was shown an attempt record circuit for LHR in the 747 classic sim at Cranebank. The BA training Captain thought he was on for the record when he dug in the wingtip and augered in. Filled me with confidence.!!!!!!
Gonzo
ExSimGuy
19th February 2001, 11:49
Gonzo !
Nice to hear "my" old sim is still running! - They still got 2? or only one of them?
And they're still flying them like we used to :)
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Gonzo
19th February 2001, 13:51
Both of the times I've been there over the past 3 years I only saw one.
Last time I went, though, was in March 99
Gonzo
scarebus
20th February 2001, 02:33
I've done Bigginhill 21 - Redhill 26 in 3 mins in an Arrow, I dont know why I bothered to retract the gear!
ExSimGuy
20th February 2001, 12:16
You can retract the gear in an Arrow ? ;) ;)
(edited 'cos I can't even type one line without spelling errors!)
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cyclops
20th February 2001, 19:02
Luqa-Halfar 2min 30secs in an Argosy!!!!
trustno1
20th February 2001, 21:30
Does anybody know what is the fastest time ever done between LHR/DUB. I hear that a contender could be an EI 737-200 which used to do a freight run on Saturday Mornings back in the late 80's. I hear the time was 37mins approx. Can anybody confirm this.
far cue
22nd February 2001, 14:59
What's all this "SIM" crap???
Try a (real) Pilatus Porter with 20 kts on the nose.
Well under 1 minute.
Cheers
Skycop
23rd February 2001, 01:22
About 5 seconds, AS-355.
and brakes off to 10,000ft - 2 seconds. Any helicopter with brakes.
SC.
Irish Steve
23rd February 2001, 03:14
EI 1-11 sim demonstrated circuit, land on same heading as take off, so fly a full 360, on 23 ( that's a while back ) of 54 seconds.
Much better test of the adrenaline is depart Kai tak, (74-4 light, up to 10,000, back on again full stop, any runway. Time is brakes to brakes.
Record is about 5 mins 25, but we've discovered that the sims don't fully model side slip, so that makes the descent a bit slow :)
Another fun exercise is to try and get large aircraft into Short runways! It's surprising what can be got into places like Chicago Meigs, or LCY, and that's without a hurricane of a head wind.
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